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Sick of being lectured about the climate crisis

328 replies

Soulesssummer · 28/07/2023 13:12

I try my best to leave as little carbon footprint as possible.
Married with no kids and annual dual fuel bills are under£700
1 small car, holiday overseas once every 5 years.
So why do those wealthy families with 3,4, 5 plus kids who drive SUV tanks and holiday every year multiple times.,who consume £300 plus in energy bills monthly, have the audacity and blatant cheek to lecture others on the climate crisis.

It's like they have only just twigged their excessive greed and consumption just might now mean your kids futures are ruined.
It's making me so angry.

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Yellowdays · 28/07/2023 22:34

You're talking rubbish and being deliberately divisive.. People have all sorts of reasons for high fuel costs, including health reasons.

Ohwhatadag · 28/07/2023 22:34

Ah, Communism alive and well, just like it was during covid.

You have no idea of what communism is, other than to use it as an insult.

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/07/2023 22:34

kitsuneghost · 28/07/2023 19:40

Poor people tend to have a lot of pets and kids

Where are you getting this from?Confused

Alighttouchonthetiller · 28/07/2023 22:37

I don't need people continually 'communicating the risks of climate change' to me. I'm good, thanks. I understand. I get it. I've seen the David Attenborough programmes. I've read the articles. I do my bit. Running around screaming, 'WE'RE IN A CLIMATE EMERGENCY!!!!!' constantly just pisses me off.

I fucking know!!! I am aware! We're all aware! We don't need any more awareness (except the MN idiots who heat their houses to 25 degrees). We need governments and scientists to do something. We're all scratching about doing our little micro-eco-saves (beeswax wrappers for our sandwiches, swapping shower gel for soap bars, walking to the shops with our reusable bags) but what's needed is proper government action and big, significant scientific solutions.

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/07/2023 22:39

Ohwhatadag · 28/07/2023 22:34

Ah, Communism alive and well, just like it was during covid.

You have no idea of what communism is, other than to use it as an insult.

I've noticed that many people are misusing words on Mnet these days.

AvengedQuince · 28/07/2023 22:39

Yellowdays · 28/07/2023 22:34

You're talking rubbish and being deliberately divisive.. People have all sorts of reasons for high fuel costs, including health reasons.

Some people have reasons, many don't. Many just heated their large houses and tumble dried hoodies after one wear while being subsidised by the tax payer last winter.

Washeroo · 28/07/2023 22:39

The stereotypical multi car household with 20 flights per year and loads of waste generally doesn’t annoy me nearly as much as the climate change deniers.

I’d rather they just said I have no intention of voluntarily changing my behaviours and/or can’t afford to, or whatever the reason is. At least that would be honest. The deniers are literally idiots I have no time for.

EmilyBrontesGhost · 28/07/2023 22:40

Lazyusername · 28/07/2023 22:31

@Soulesssummer I am 100% in agreement with you on this. There was one of these middle class numpties on here the other night who I took to task. Saying they "despaired" of people not halving their consumption of resources but when pressed admitted they still flew abroad on holiday because their husband apparently made them. šŸ˜† Like they were not capable of saying no. They also drove a car, ate meat and lived in a large house. Yet apparently they were climate activist of the year and someone who had to drive a petrol van to work as a tradesperson was evil. šŸ˜‚
I am all for making the world a cleaner and less polluted place but as the top 1% have more wealth than the bottom 50% combined, let's address inequality first shall we? Let's ban private jets, superyachts, private heated swimming pools and second homes. This won't cause people to be cold, hungry or trapped in their homes as they are unable to get about without a car. I've asked before for the people who disagree with this idea to get back and tell me why but have had no reply so far.
The earth's resources are finite so instead of taking everything from the poor let's level things out so nobody is consuming obscene amounts. It's just common sense. If the elite are not going to change their ways, why on earth should working class people go without heat or a cooked meal? I am willing to stand up and do what it takes to stop this happening.

This is an excellent post and well articulated.

Fact is, the (so-called) "climate crisis" is for the middle classes, just like covid was, because they can afford it.

The less well off are simply struggling to make ends meet and feed their families, they just have no time for this nonsense.

AvengedQuince · 28/07/2023 22:43

Washeroo · 28/07/2023 22:39

The stereotypical multi car household with 20 flights per year and loads of waste generally doesn’t annoy me nearly as much as the climate change deniers.

I’d rather they just said I have no intention of voluntarily changing my behaviours and/or can’t afford to, or whatever the reason is. At least that would be honest. The deniers are literally idiots I have no time for.

The first type of people don't actually believe in climate change. If they did they would change their behaviour.

Hawkins0001 · 28/07/2023 22:43

I've said it will be military research and development, silicon valley, and scientists etc that will produce the equipment and technology to save the planet.

Are the oil protestors trying to be the next Greta ?

EmilyBrontesGhost · 28/07/2023 22:45

What is this ridiculous and nonsense "denier" labelling stuff.

Accusing people of being "deniers" is what you learned during covid (nudged into using it by the mainstream media) and you think it makes you sound morally superior.

You think it gives you the edge, makes you the clever one, the morally superior one, when it's just intellectually lazy and virtue signalling nonsense.

Hawkins0001 · 28/07/2023 22:47

EmilyBrontesGhost · 28/07/2023 22:45

What is this ridiculous and nonsense "denier" labelling stuff.

Accusing people of being "deniers" is what you learned during covid (nudged into using it by the mainstream media) and you think it makes you sound morally superior.

You think it gives you the edge, makes you the clever one, the morally superior one, when it's just intellectually lazy and virtue signalling nonsense.

Basically anyone that has a different perspective than the original mainstream narrative.

EmilyBrontesGhost · 28/07/2023 22:47

Ohwhatadag · 28/07/2023 22:34

Ah, Communism alive and well, just like it was during covid.

You have no idea of what communism is, other than to use it as an insult.

Of course it's an insult.

Have you never read a history book?

Washeroo · 28/07/2023 22:47

Says the post with the most buzzword bingo points - extra for ā€˜virtue signalling’.

I’ll rephrase, people who chose not to believe that climate change is happening. 11 words instead of 1.

Deloresadores · 28/07/2023 22:48

Your life must be so awful to be so disturbed by science.
Get a grip.
Its pathetic how triggered people are by climate change conversations. Wait until it really starts biting.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 28/07/2023 22:48

it’s not nonsense though, it’s real and will affect the poorest the worst too. there won’t be sudden scientific breakthroughs that solve this, the only answer is not burning fossil fuels - or at least cutting it dramatically.

if people really are lecturing you while still being high emitters themselves then tell them, lecture back by all means.

the poorest are the lowest emitters but also the ones who stand to gain the most from actual climate action - a properly insulated efficient home with low energy costs would be a big help, and we should be giving those upgrades to the poorest for FREE, subsidised through a carbon tax on high emitting activities starting with flights and gas guzzling cars.

that is a sort of communism I suppose and one I can really get behind.

SingingNettles · 28/07/2023 22:49

EmilyBrontesGhost · 28/07/2023 22:45

What is this ridiculous and nonsense "denier" labelling stuff.

Accusing people of being "deniers" is what you learned during covid (nudged into using it by the mainstream media) and you think it makes you sound morally superior.

You think it gives you the edge, makes you the clever one, the morally superior one, when it's just intellectually lazy and virtue signalling nonsense.

Using the word ā€˜denier’ to mean someone who denies anthropogenic climate change makes a lot more sense than your reference to communism on the last page….

Pinkflamingopants · 28/07/2023 22:50

It’s all bollocks anyway.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 28/07/2023 22:50

Pinkflamingopants · 28/07/2023 22:50

It’s all bollocks anyway.

what is ?

ArseMenagerie · 28/07/2023 22:53

Imma add ā€˜Climate Change’ alongside ā€˜Race’ to the list of ā€˜Things People on MN can’t Discuss With Intelligence’.

EmilyBrontesGhost · 28/07/2023 22:55

I've lived through all of this ⬇

All of it.

Sick of being lectured about the climate crisis
Hawkins0001 · 28/07/2023 22:56

EmilyBrontesGhost · 28/07/2023 22:55

I've lived through all of this ⬇

All of it.

So basically the main stream media is what ever it needs to be at x year

HolyShitDrJones · 28/07/2023 22:57

At least the killer bees were allowed another outing.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 28/07/2023 23:03

EmilyBrontesGhost · 28/07/2023 22:55

I've lived through all of this ⬇

All of it.

boomer facebook BS, most of it made up isn’t a proper response.

if there is clear evidence that AGW isn’t real then where are the scientific studies confirming that ? where is the peer reviewed evidence ?

Hawkins0001 · 28/07/2023 23:04

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 28/07/2023 23:03

boomer facebook BS, most of it made up isn’t a proper response.

if there is clear evidence that AGW isn’t real then where are the scientific studies confirming that ? where is the peer reviewed evidence ?

How can most be made up if it was the main steam media narrative at the time.