Sick of being lectured about the climate crisis

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I try my best to leave as little carbon footprint as possible.
Married with no kids and annual dual fuel bills are under£700
1 small car, holiday overseas once every 5 years.
So why do those wealthy families with 3,4, 5 plus kids who drive SUV tanks and holiday every year multiple times.,who consume £300 plus in energy bills monthly, have the audacity and blatant cheek to lecture others on the climate crisis.

It's like they have only just twigged their excessive greed and consumption just might now mean your kids futures are ruined.
It's making me so angry.

We travel but don't have a car, have solar panels and a water meter. So a low carbon footprint allowing us to go overseas

From Google

"What is the meaning of fact?
something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact."

Really ? “blah blah” ?

I think you’re clearly a fantasist claiming we were told we would literally die if we left
our homes. Step outside and drop dead was it ?
hmmm…

The hole in the Ozone layer was stopped by the Montreal Protocol. It is recovering well because people changed the way they did stuff.

Both ! Like AIDS was. Like the Ozone layer was.

We can’t continue to do business as usual until some boffin makes an energy breakthrough and makes eg fusion viable, then industrialises it, then scales it. Until then we have to find alternative ways to burn less oil and coal. Much less oil and coal.

Oh yes, they stopped flying, turned vegan, gave up their cars, paid monstrous taxes on energy bills for the pleasure of living in the cold.

All of that really did happen in the 80s in 90s. Strange how no one can remember it.

Yup. The world took massive and decisive action (banning 99% of ozone depleting chemicals), on the advice of scientists, in order to stop the depletion of the ozone layer and help it recover.

And yet people hold it up as an example of scientists ‘getting it wrong’:

”You don’t hear much about the ozone layer anymore”.

No shit, why do you think that is?

What I find really weird is that we are being told that renewable energy is the way forward to slow or combat what was until recently labelled global warming ,yet since the introduction of such endeavours (UK I believe is using 40% at the last data) according to the science pertaining to this climate change is increasing? So ultimately how do (if you believe that this is a man made issue) rectify this?

Thank you @Hawkins0001.

Fact is the (so-called) "climate crisis" is for the middle classes, just like Covid was, they can afford it.
This is not a fact. It is a fact free sentence.

”blah blah” is the response of someone lacking the comprehension to actually engage in a topic. Someone only willing to put their fingers in their ears. It’s OK, others more suited to the task will solve this for you and you can live in ignorant bliss.

What we were told is, that if we left our homes, we could infect other people with a virus we didn't even have.

So they convinced people that even though they were perfectly healthy, they could make other people sick.

Absolutely perverse.

And NOW the same people that fell for that scam are falling for the "climate emergency" scam. Honestly, most people will believe whatever their TV tells them.

From Google

"The Montreal Protocol, finalized in 1987, is a global agreement to protect the stratospheric ozone layer by phasing out the production and consumption of ozone-depleting substances (ODS). ODS are substances that were commonly used in products such as refrigerators, air conditioners, fire extinguishers, and aerosols."

The technology was changed that made it possible, rather than the jo public.

If you don’t know what you’re taking about, it’s okay not to post.

Precisely because of this, greenhouse gas emissions from UK energy are reducing. We’re lucky that we live in a hell
of a windy place !

Let’s do the same with cars, flights, steelmaking, agriculture and shipping and we might be on the road to a solution.

Energy proves it works but it’s not the whole story.

Meh, we are probably already past the tipping points now.

The good news is the planet will be fine. It just won't be able to support humans (and a bunch of other current species). Not too worry though, other species will evolve.

Species come, species go.

We had our chance and fucked it.

Ah thanks

This is truly insightful stuff.

Question- when you see the images and reports on the wild fires in the Mediterranean, do you just think, "a few flames never hurt anyone", I am genuinely curious as to how you rationalise this?

As seen on this thread and elsewhere, there is a hectoring finger pointing tone to quite a lot of discussion about climate crisis.

I don't know what good people think it will do. Most people don't respond well to hectoring. But, still, it happens.

We were told not to do things which risked those who carried the virus from infecting those who didn’t.

Perfectly healthy people were not told they could infect people, that’s you inventing stuff again.

As opposed to ‘my bamboo toothbrush and plant based dinner will save the world’?

I know, the hyperbole is astonishing. Imagine, calling parents "criminal" because they have children.🤯

Oh god the "we are too many" crew do make me laugh. They're like drivers complaining about traffic not realising that they are the traffic. None of them ever offer to do themselves in either I notice. It's other people who are too many.

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