to point out that one Y chromosome does not make you a male

[Nimbostratus100]

In response to other posts insisting that one genetic test and one Y chromosome makes an athlete indisputably male with no room for error, I just want to point out that it not true.

There is always genetic exchange, for example, between a mother and baby, so anyone who has had a son will still have Y chromosomes in some cells in their body, and that will possibly show up in a genetic screening.

I am all for keeping men out of women's sport, and defining them genetically, but please lets not go over the top - one test does not prove you are male

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Exactly.

Not 1 woman on this thread has said they'd expect a woman with a random Y chromosome to compete as male.

Yet the Op is arguing we all would say that are are damaging the cause.

It appears she's the only one damaging a cause - and that's woman being listened too.

so, mocking the fact that I am severely dyslexic, and typing one handed in bed after major surgery makes you feel good, does it?

Oh I'm not mocking that at all - your spelling is fine so why would I? I was questioning your assertion that you're a geneticist that's all, and suggesting that when you say 'geneticist' what you actually mean is 'not a geneticist but I read something on the internet so that makes me a geneticist'.

Because your genetics knowledge is appalling.

Thank crikey for the Mumsnetters on the thread who were able to correct your bonkers assertions, eh?

OP identifies as a geneticist.

Didn't you say you were a teacher the other day? Plus your posts are always tra leaning so how are you on the same side?

@Nimbostratus100
so, mocking the fact that I am severely dyslexic, and typing one handed in bed after major surgery makes you feel good, does it?

Have you had a GA or sedation within the last 48 hours?
If so, you are not yourself, and its time to log out. Set social media to read only, and don't do any shopping online.

The only one spreading ignorance and misinformation on this thread is the OP. Such a jumbled up mound of nonsense over a straw man issue.

OP, I think your post-op meds are muddling your thought processes. You've not clarified a thing, merely unnecessarily muddied the waters.

Why do they test then? Surely officials can just look at athletes and know so doing tests seems a bit of a waste

Because if the athlete in question insistently claims to be a woman, then irrefutable evidence is required.

Best post of 2023! "While they cost me a load of money!" Hahahahaha

I suppose many of The Righteous imagine that the vipers of MN are mumsy middle-aged dimbos who only know about prams and laundry, and barely have a single GCSE in Biology to rub together.

Agree fat some of these responses are brilliantly dry in humour. 🤣

OMG this is the thread that keeps on giving!!

But I still believe the "reacting so angrily to athletes who need more than one test" here is a strawwoman being attacked. Who's doing this?

Nobody, because apart from anything else we don’t get a running commentary on genetic testing of athletes.

THIS

Who on earth is wasting their time by sex-checking mothers? The fact that they have borne a child makes them indisputably female with no room for error.

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Thank goodness this will put an end to all those married mothers of boys who are elbowing their way into men's sports and winning all the awards and all the trophies and the things. Finally we have proof they aren't really men.

Naturally everyone who disagrees with you is by definition hostile or ignorant.

But please go on with your “ how many angels can dance on the head of a pin “ argument, it’s fascinating so see the lengths some people go to to deny reality.

If a mother has a male baby, and her DNA changes to XY, how is it possible for her him to have another baby?

Wouldn't she he grow a penis and start producing sperm?

you're a maths teacher?

Well IMO it’s you who’s making yourself look aggressive and stupid, not to mention hostile and ignorant, but that’s just my opinion 🤷🏻‍♀️

Noooooo.

You just don't get it.

We will all be screaming from the rooftops that that mother of a boy, sister of a male twin etc should be competing as a male.

Despite us all saying otherwise.

We just don't understand because we aren't geneticists like the OP.

Who happened to be a teacher last week.

And maybe just identifies as employed in whatever job she decides makes her a expert of the thread 🤔

The actual disturbing thing about this issue, which we're all skirting round, is that for us non-elite female athletes, there may still be the odd Y chromosome floating around from the sperm of that weird boy from Freshers Week, or any other horror you've ever shagged 😷

OMG.

ANY female who has had sex with a male, is going to now have sperm with Y chromosomes floating around - surely the OP would know you don't even have to become pregnant to have your DNA change. Pfft some geneticist they are.