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to point out that one Y chromosome does not make you a male

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Nimbostratus100 · 06/04/2023 09:53

In response to other posts insisting that one genetic test and one Y chromosome makes an athlete indisputably male with no room for error, I just want to point out that it not true.

There is always genetic exchange, for example, between a mother and baby, so anyone who has had a son will still have Y chromosomes in some cells in their body, and that will possibly show up in a genetic screening.

I am all for keeping men out of women's sport, and defining them genetically, but please lets not go over the top - one test does not prove you are male

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ilovesooty · 07/04/2023 15:35

ATerrorofLeftovers · 07/04/2023 14:39

Amazing. So can you actually confirm that the OP is the geneticist they are claiming to be? And also a maths teacher?

It’s important. Because they’ve come on here claiming specialist, professional knowledge in a way that is seeking to persuade others on the basis of that apparent expertise. So it’s entirely in order for others to question their story when there are glaring inconsistencies, not only in what they’re alleging to be true, but also in their own back story, which they are leaning on to claim expert status.

I've already said that I have no idea what her expertise in genetics is, if you bothered to read properly.

ilovesooty · 07/04/2023 15:38

I've said that I know she's not a man or a school pupil, both of which have been alleged.

matis · 07/04/2023 15:43

Geneticist. Statistician. Maths teacher. And worked with sex offenders.

It's not honest to portray yourself as a geneticist when you state that you're a statistician who worked with genetics.

matis · 07/04/2023 15:44

And then call yourself a geneticist.

(Posted too soon)

Happylittlechicken · 07/04/2023 15:46

ilovesooty · 07/04/2023 15:35

I've already said that I have no idea what her expertise in genetics is, if you bothered to read properly.

But you said you knew her. Surely you’d know is she was a geneticist or not?

ilovesooty · 07/04/2023 15:50

Happylittlechicken · 07/04/2023 15:46

But you said you knew her. Surely you’d know is she was a geneticist or not?

I didn't say I knew her.

Try reading properly.

EmotionalSupportHyena · 07/04/2023 15:51

MarshaBradyo · 07/04/2023 14:28

Tbf it is a bit of a gaff to confidently state you’re a geneticist when other posts say not

Especially when it’s so easy to change MN username.

If you are going to post all sorts of contradictory claims about your career on a single website you should either expect other website users to recall your previous claims and question you about the contradictions or you should have the wherewithal to at least try and conceal your myriad of reinvented backstories!

ilovesooty · 07/04/2023 15:56

EmotionalSupportHyena · 07/04/2023 15:51

Especially when it’s so easy to change MN username.

If you are going to post all sorts of contradictory claims about your career on a single website you should either expect other website users to recall your previous claims and question you about the contradictions or you should have the wherewithal to at least try and conceal your myriad of reinvented backstories!

Or posters could observe the Talk Guidelines and report inconsistencies to MNHQ.

In any case I can't comment on her career or expertise if I wanted to. As I said, I know she's not a man or a school pupil.

EmotionalSupportHyena · 07/04/2023 15:59

ilovesooty · 07/04/2023 15:56

Or posters could observe the Talk Guidelines and report inconsistencies to MNHQ.

In any case I can't comment on her career or expertise if I wanted to. As I said, I know she's not a man or a school pupil.

Surely one report is enough? You already posted that MNHQ are aware so multiple reports about the same thing will just waste staff time.

ArabellaScott · 07/04/2023 16:03

SNWannabe · 06/04/2023 10:19

Ummm, if you've carried and birthed a baby boy...I would say that has cleared up any question of "are you male or female?" anyway...surely? I am not a geneticist though.

100%.

ilovesooty · 07/04/2023 16:05

EmotionalSupportHyena · 07/04/2023 15:59

Surely one report is enough? You already posted that MNHQ are aware so multiple reports about the same thing will just waste staff time.

I'm sure MNHQ were the best judges of that.

SmartHome · 07/04/2023 16:08

Don't be so ridiculous. Nobody is "alleging" that this OP is a man or a school people. They're taking the piss out of someone making themselves look ridiculous and trying to lord it over other posters. I could give a shit what sex or age the OP is. Talking shit is talking shit.

EmotionalSupportHyena · 07/04/2023 16:10

SmartHome · 07/04/2023 16:08

Don't be so ridiculous. Nobody is "alleging" that this OP is a man or a school people. They're taking the piss out of someone making themselves look ridiculous and trying to lord it over other posters. I could give a shit what sex or age the OP is. Talking shit is talking shit.

Quite.

And if we reported every Mumsnetter who randomly talked shit we’d all have sore thumbs!

HatchedInALaboratory · 07/04/2023 16:19

EmotionalSupportHyena · 07/04/2023 16:10

Quite.

And if we reported every Mumsnetter who randomly talked shit we’d all have sore thumbs!

And if mumsnet deleted all those threads, there wouldn’t be many left to read some weeks. I presume that’s why they leave them up. The fantasists keep the site in business. 😬

ATerrorofLeftovers · 07/04/2023 16:20

ilovesooty · 07/04/2023 15:35

I've already said that I have no idea what her expertise in genetics is, if you bothered to read properly.

Oh, I do beg your pardon. I must have missed that post out of the twenty pages of the thread. What a terrible person I am. 🙄

So you vouch for OP being female, but nothing else, right?

And no doubt you fully understand why posters aren’t happy to take her assertions at face value, given the glaring inconsistencies in her claimed expertise. Seeing as only a fool would do so, in the circumstances. Right?

Not quite sure why you’re getting so snippy, quite honestly, in support of someone you say you don’t know, who’s behaved like a bit of an arse on the thread.

HatchedInALaboratory · 07/04/2023 16:29

ilovesooty · 07/04/2023 15:56

Or posters could observe the Talk Guidelines and report inconsistencies to MNHQ.

In any case I can't comment on her career or expertise if I wanted to. As I said, I know she's not a man or a school pupil.

Are you OPs cousin? 🤭

OMG12 · 07/04/2023 18:23

PriamFarrl · 07/04/2023 13:11

How would you know that your friend has met the op?

Well I suppose it’s quite unique being a geneticist mathematician statistician teacher who has worked with sex offenders. Prob discussed this polymath in the pub? Waiting for next week to find out they work for NASA and have walked in the moon

itsgettingweird · 07/04/2023 19:18

Clymene · 07/04/2023 10:14

To my knowledge, the OP has identified as a geneticist, a secondary school maths teacher, and autism expert.

A veritable Mr Benn

More like Mr Bean Grin

ArabellaScott · 07/04/2023 19:29

she's not a man or a school pupil

Bit outing.

Happylittlechicken · 07/04/2023 19:47

ilovesooty · 07/04/2023 15:50

I didn't say I knew her.

Try reading properly.

So how do you know she’s female and not a school pupil? Cos you’d have to know somebody to know that wouldn’t you?

ilovesooty · 07/04/2023 19:49

Happylittlechicken · 07/04/2023 19:47

So how do you know she’s female and not a school pupil? Cos you’d have to know somebody to know that wouldn’t you?

No, you'd have to know someone who'd met her.

DecayedStrumpet · 07/04/2023 19:56

This is such a weird thread.

OP - microchimerism is a thing
MN scientists - yeah we know
OP - my mate had one Y chromosome in a sample and got shamed and abused
MN - really? Normally they just investigate further. Tell us more.
OP - you're all ignorant and abusive <flounces>

Happylittlechicken · 07/04/2023 19:57

ilovesooty · 07/04/2023 19:49

No, you'd have to know someone who'd met her.

Oh I’d that like “you wouldn’t know her, she doesn’t go here?” 😂😂😂

matis · 07/04/2023 19:59

The op has certainly had an eclectic career.

ilovesooty · 07/04/2023 20:07

Happylittlechicken · 07/04/2023 19:57

Oh I’d that like “you wouldn’t know her, she doesn’t go here?” 😂😂😂

In the face of this insinuation that I'm a liar and digging for further details which I've declined to supply, I'm finding it difficult to remain civil.