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Is he being unreasonable? "Women's rights were won at the expense of men"

174 replies

Rainbowshit · 25/03/2023 21:08

twitter.com/billybragg/status/1462076809542094854?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdy

So says Billy Bragg. Is he being unreasonable? 🤬

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GurlwiththeCurl · 25/03/2023 21:10

This is showing that he’s a complete arse as well as lacking in intelligence. Well, his recent tweets have been the same, so this is confirmation really.

VickyEadieofThigh · 25/03/2023 21:13

When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

Bragg is a misogynist arsehole and he's just given us absolute proof.

His persistent defence of males' rights to take what they want from women is underlined - right here.

Rainbowshit · 25/03/2023 21:13

To quote Germaine Greer. "Women have very little idea of how much men hate them."

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Member589500 · 25/03/2023 21:14

Typical left wing man. Would he say black people won their freedom at the expense of white people or colonies gained freedom at the expense of their colonisers?
Yes men did lose some of their privilege.
I don’t cry about it.

Albiboba · 25/03/2023 21:14

If one gender are taking 100% then they are going to perceive it as a “loss” for it to go to 50/50. But it’s not really a loss but no gender, or race has the right to an upper hand.

minou123 · 25/03/2023 21:15

Absolutely unreasonable and his argument doesn't make any sense.

What did men lose?

▪︎ When women were given the right to vote - did men lose the right to vote? No

▪︎ When women were given the right to own property - did men lose the right to buy property? No

▪︎ When women were given the right to equal pay - did men see thier pay reduce? No

I could go on.....

Albiboba · 25/03/2023 21:15

Rainbowshit · 25/03/2023 21:13

To quote Germaine Greer. "Women have very little idea of how much men hate them."

I think they know.

Divorcedalongtime · 25/03/2023 21:18

Rainbowshit · 25/03/2023 21:13

To quote Germaine Greer. "Women have very little idea of how much men hate them."

So sad but so true. Specially all those women who say “equality has gone too far”

Jonei · 25/03/2023 21:18

He's as thick as shit and a misogynist to boot. I used to quite like him years ago. Unfortunately twitter has given a platform to show just how repulsive he is. He's just bellend who's trying to stay relevant.

HermioneWeasley · 25/03/2023 21:19

He’s a misogynist bell end

HereForTheFreeLunch · 25/03/2023 21:20

Men lost the right to have a woman barefoot and pregnant, shackled to the kitchen sink.
He obviously doesn't think women's rights are human rights.

Rainbowshit · 25/03/2023 21:20

@Albiboba Rainbowshit
To quote Germaine Greer. "Women have very little idea of how much men hate them."

I think they know.

I really didn't. It's becoming very clear to me now. Feeling quite distressed by the hate shown recently towards women just wanting to speak.

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longwayoff · 25/03/2023 21:24

They walk among us. Women roll back a little of the centuries of oppressive Male behaviour and men burst into tears. Poor loves. We should be embroidering hankies for them.

raspberrywine · 25/03/2023 21:24

He's a misogynistic twunt.

Men didn't lose anything. They retained their votes, they retained their proportionately higher pay, they still retained male toilets.

PronounssheRa · 25/03/2023 21:24

Don’t you think men said ‘what about our right to single sex spaces?’

Well Billy I hate to break it to you but yes they did which is why the masons mens clubs and even some golf clubs are still for men only.

Unless Billy is sad that universities, medical school the voting booth and the workplace etc are no longer single sex.

beastlyslumber · 25/03/2023 21:27

He's a total misogynist. What a spectacularly stupid and ignorant thing to say.

Eastofe · 25/03/2023 21:30

Its that whole 'equality feels like opression when you are used to privilege' mindset.
Men didn't lose anything but an advantage they should never have had in the first place

Surplus2requirements · 25/03/2023 21:32

I hear this sort of shit all the time from MRAs who also tend to spout white replacement theory bollocks and the like.

Little, insecure men that fear losing the privilege they deny exists and the far left can be as bad as the far right.

minou123 · 25/03/2023 21:32

Eastofe · 25/03/2023 21:30

Its that whole 'equality feels like opression when you are used to privilege' mindset.
Men didn't lose anything but an advantage they should never have had in the first place

Yes!

Eloquently put.

I'm stealing this for future use😁

Somanysocks · 25/03/2023 21:32

BB is but a smelly fart

FlyingWormsAndSubterraneanBirds · 25/03/2023 21:33

Yeah he may be right.

IF in the year 5023 we've spent a few thousand years owning men as our property, leaving all domestic work and child rearing to them, denying them the vote, legally raping them and beating them up, insisting they cannot have proper careers or be paid as much as us if we do see fit to let them work when they aren't waiting on us, and treating them as unintelligent subhumans only valued for their sperm and looking pretty (if they can manage that).

Until then he needs to STFU. Moron.

Sapphire387 · 25/03/2023 21:35

Errrrr... what exactly did they lose the 'right' to do? Legally rape their wives? Jeez, my heart bleeds for them.

Wineat5isfine · 25/03/2023 21:43

misogyny at its finest. He’s a class A prick.

NettleTea · 25/03/2023 21:43

HereForTheFreeLunch · 25/03/2023 21:20

Men lost the right to have a woman barefoot and pregnant, shackled to the kitchen sink.
He obviously doesn't think women's rights are human rights.

I think what they hate the most is what they also say about 'forriners' - coming over and taking their jobs. Because women excel often, whereas men used to get by being shoddy.

this kind of man REALLY hates women being financially independant and not needing to be reliant on them, so he can treat her with the disdain he feels.

Although many like the fact their wife brings in the dough, they dont want to take over the boring drudge work. We see it oh so often on here.

They really do think that men are best, and thats why they get so butt hurt if women do better than them

FlyingWormsAndSubterraneanBirds · 25/03/2023 21:50

this kind of man REALLY hates women being financially independant and not needing to be reliant on them, so he can treat her with the disdain he feels.

Yep. Exactly the kind who sees women as inferior and can't stand it when they do not need a man, the kind who try to marry someone who earns far less than them, preferably less intelligent and deferential. These kinds of men want a compliant house slave they can fuck, basically. Makes them even more furious if a woman has the cheek to decide she doesn't want a man at all. They think women like that shouldn't even have the right to exist.

I think young women are getting better at spotting them and saying "no thanks". Which is making the younger versions of him even more angry. Tough.

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