To not be able to stop thinking about the Idaho murder case

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Is anyone else following this case? It’s absolutely horrible and has really scared me to the point of locking my bedroom door when I sleep every night! The more that comes out in the news, the more bizarre and confusing the case seems to get too. So scary to think what people are capable of 😞

From the information released it seems as though a few of the housemates were actually awake. 😔

So much about this doesn’t add up. Why leave 2 eye witnesses?

No doubt there’s more to come out regarding the 2 survivors.

Maybe some of the housemates were awake but not the victims? Who was the delivery for? If it was for the victims, then yes, some of them might have been awake to receive it.
Was there a security camera in/on the house? Did it record anything?

There could be several reasons

A) he explicitly wasn't interested in them. He was there for the others

B) he didn't know they were there

C) he was injured/weapon broke

D) he thought police were on their way.

The delivery was for one of the victims. She received it at 4am. She was on tik tok still at 4.12. He was on camera fleeing at 4.20am

Unfortunately from what has been released it does seem like the victims were awake. 😥

It’s horrific to think they were just doing normal stuff minutes before it happened and sinister thinking he could have been watching them or the house at least for months . In a way it would have been easier to understand if it was a crime of passion by an ex or someone connected to one of them but what seems to have happened is just so scary and like something from a nightmare .
i feel so sorry for the surviving roommates and hope they are getting good support , their lives will never be the same again after this .

My thought when I saw the thread title was why Idaho? Why follow the US? Why not this one, that has been keeping me awake? www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-64038743

Anyone who doesn’t know what some men are capable of lives on another planet.

@RosaGallica that is horrific. All of it, but the fact he twice raped his step daughter before her murder. 😢😢

There are indeed monsters walking amongst us.

This part is really confusing to me. Did the flat mate just go back to sleep after locking her door? Not even did she not contact police, did she not even try to ring another flatmate to ask what was happening?

So all your knowledge of how Americans "tend" to do things is learned from films? Should I start using films to judge how British people tend to behave?
You think only people in "Downtown Detroit" and "The Bronx" lock their doors?
You're hilarious (and I do wonder why you chose those two locations, hmmm)

I've been listening to a podcast that is following this. A search of his phone record showed him to be in the area I think it was 14 times in the period leading up to the murders. So he was definitely staking out the place.

In the circumstances I would be scared shitless and not want to risk making a peep by getting my phone out. I’d be hiding under the bed frozen in fear. Plenty of people go into shock and freeze out of trauma when something horrifying happens: we’d all like to think we’d be heroic and gung-ho but the reality is fear can be totally paralysing.

Plenty of psychopaths come from normal families, so I'm not sure why that would seem strange

@RosaGallica

Both cases are horrendous. I think the idaho one was more publicised because it was over a month long man hunt.
Just because people are taking about this case doesn't make that one less horrific. It is indeed very scary what men are capable of.
It doesn't matter what country it's in people can be affected by it.

Plenty of psychopaths come from normal families, so I'm not sure why that would seem strange

I think the house had 2 entrances, it was built on the side of a hill and the survivors were on the bottom floor. I read it was a neighbour who phoned 911 and said someone was unconscious on the ground outside the house.

I have unhealthily obsessed and stepped back here it is on mumsnet 🙈 I feel horrific for all the families involved. The poor eye witness too, I can’t imagine how she is feeling.

The crime is horrible. The way ‘normal’ people trawl over the details like ghouls and start up conspiracy theories about the surviving victims is abhorrent. These are real people who died; real people who survived a horrific event. It’s not a tv show laid on for your entertainment.

I agree. It's Fight, Flight or Freeze but Freeze is the least known reaction. Some people go into Freeze mode and can do nothing. A friend of mine was in a gun hold up in a bank and said no one could get her up off the floor for about three hours afterwards. She just had to keep lying there, long after the gunmen had gone.

@Bookkeys what? Do you mind linking

@NotAnotherBathBomb which podcast is it pls

Where are you reading this leve of detail? I can only find very basic outlines which give no information on the killer or the victims or survivors.

Do they, @AreOttersJustWetCats ? I genuinely didn't know this. I thought all violent psychopaths had some level of trauma or brutality in their family background. I've never read of one who didn't.

@WinterFoxes well I found some good threads on Reddit and tattle but also TikTok. However they released the 19 page affidavit a couple of days ago.