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Paul Breach

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TulipsRule · 04/01/2023 09:10

For those of you who use TikTok, have you seen this Paul Breach Guy? What’s your opinions on him?
My cousins daughter showed me his videos, it’s quite alarming and I’m worried that he seems to get so much engagement on the platform which is really geared toward teenagers.

she’s explained the back story to me, he’s forty odd and got a 16/17 year old pregnant when he was 28 (I think). And he since has been allegedly messaging and creating content geared toward teenage girls. Most recently, he stayed in a hotel with a 19 year old with the pretence of taking photos, all starting to sound a bit Dahmer-esqe.

Forgive me if this isn’t accurate it is being relayed to me by a younger family member.

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GinoVino · 04/01/2023 21:31

ILoveeCakes · 04/01/2023 20:34

Is dating younger women ok when Leo di Caprio does it? ok

It's not ok when Leonardo DiCaprio does it no. He gets a lot of bad press for it if you'd bothered to notice. But at least he's not dating vulnerable, 19 year old sex workers labelling themselves as 'barely legal'. Or manipulating teenage girls, 14/15/16 year olds. You have to be stupid to not realise how different the situations are.

BirdyWoof · 05/01/2023 02:29

He’s a creepy bastard.

I saw his TikTok of him bending over backwards to justify taking photos of that girl in Norwich.

The amount of times he said “outside with clothes on” was nauseating. For me personally it was just really weird to keep mentioning that detail repeatedly. Definitely came across to me like someone who is doing a pretty dreadful job of lying.

At best he’s just a weird bloke, but regardless girls and young women should stay away from him. And his photos are shite which is just the kicker. The guy has absolutely no talent and has no business in trying to prompt himself as a photographer needing models.

BirdyWoof · 05/01/2023 02:34

Leo’s behaviour can be considered creepy but at least he isn’t (well as far as I’m aware) messaging underage girls. He also isn’t staying in hotel rooms with vulnerable young women under the guise of doing work with them, when he’s actually just exploiting them for his own means.

He also didn’t get a 16 year old pregnant when he was in his late twenties. He also doesn’t live with his dad and make weird dancing videos online for a target audience of 10-16 year olds.

OatMilkLattes · 05/01/2023 03:01

He’s so weird. Makes my skin crawl and makes me cringe 🤮

OatMilkLattes · 05/01/2023 03:04

Also does anyone know his Instagram name? I’ve only ever seen him on tiktok.

UntrainedEye96 · 05/01/2023 05:48

The girl did a tiktok live last night answering questions about it all. You could tell she was struggling and was Clealry even more worried about what he would say becauxe she said she was still in contact with him etc.
She slowly realised when she was speaking with Boo (who is absolutely amazing with explaining everything to do with Paul) that he had in fact groomed her and has manipulated her enough to the point where she is too scared to tell the full story but you're able to figure it out yourself what happened. She's in contact with the police as well
It's actually really disgusting and distrurbing

Unicorn2022 · 05/01/2023 08:36

I do wonder if people like Boo are enjoying the publicity it brings them a little bit too much. He is getting worse and worse but also richer thanks to them. If everyone unfollowed and took away his platform he would just go back to being a creepy unemployed bloke living with his dad. He couldn't make the weird lives if nobody watched them.

Where are all the friends and family of these girls he meets and why aren't they warning them off? A quick google search leaves you in no doubt that he is a professional pervert and not quite right in the head, but they still contact him. I'm sure they actively seek him out because they know it is a quick way of getting tens of thousands of followers overnight. It's a shame they don't shut down his TikTok account completely.

GinoVino · 05/01/2023 09:08

I think it's really unfair if you to say that Boo, a sexual assault and grooming victim, is enjoying the publicity of speaking out about someone grooming and sexually exploiting young girls!! There are a few tiktokers that make parody videos about Paul who are just taking the piss, think it's all a joke and have gained followers because of it. But in no way is that what Boo has done.

CarPoor · 05/01/2023 09:10

Unicorn2022 · 05/01/2023 08:36

I do wonder if people like Boo are enjoying the publicity it brings them a little bit too much. He is getting worse and worse but also richer thanks to them. If everyone unfollowed and took away his platform he would just go back to being a creepy unemployed bloke living with his dad. He couldn't make the weird lives if nobody watched them.

Where are all the friends and family of these girls he meets and why aren't they warning them off? A quick google search leaves you in no doubt that he is a professional pervert and not quite right in the head, but they still contact him. I'm sure they actively seek him out because they know it is a quick way of getting tens of thousands of followers overnight. It's a shame they don't shut down his TikTok account completely.

I mean the 19yo has been a SW since at the latest 17. Do you think she has a lot of family support? Do you understand grooming?

Perhaps you should stop blaming the girls and start blaming the grown fucking adult man

caravanbuckie · 05/01/2023 09:52

I do wonder if people like Boo are enjoying the publicity it brings them a little bit too much.

Do you? Do you really think that Boo, the one person who has been completely fair, honest and calm, with absolutely no loss taking and just stating the facts as she finds them, is enjoying it?

He is getting worse and worse but also richer thanks to them. If everyone unfollowed and took away his platform he would just go back to being a creepy unemployed bloke living with his dad. He couldn't make the weird lives if nobody watched them.

No but he would still be what he is, only nobody would have a clue. The money is irrelevant, the key thing here is that he is exposed to protect others from him.

Where are all the friends and family of these girls he meets and why aren't they warning them off?

That's a great question, although you seem to be framing it in a 'blame' manner, rather than relating the ones with not friends and family are the vulnerable ones he goes for.

A quick google search leaves you in no doubt that he is a professional pervert and not quite right in the head, but they still contact him.

Yes, absolutely their fault Hmm

I'm sure they actively seek him out because they know it is a quick way of getting tens of thousands of followers overnight.

It's a shame they don't shut down his TikTok account completely.

Have you ever heard of grooming?

Your post is littered with victim blaming and pervert apologist shite. Have a think about who is to blame here, it isn't the vulnerable young women. It's the predator who targets them.

How dare you try to suggest otherwise.

caravanbuckie · 05/01/2023 09:52

No PISS taking Blush

Gerrataere · 05/01/2023 09:59

It’s a huge catch-22 situation. Give Paul attention and he thrives. Ignore him, who knows how many young girls he could take advantage of when not under the public gaze. Boo knows the latter is very likely to happen and is trying to find a balance of exposure vs attention.

The fact is you can’t put the milk back in the jug once it’s everywhere. Thousands of people aren’t going to suddenly look away from this, especially since it’s become a car crash in slow motion. Unfortunately the most likely outcome/ending is not a good one. All anyone can do is warn their teens to keep away from him both online and in public.

Unicorn2022 · 05/01/2023 10:51

If Boo and the others are speaking out to try to protect people from him then according to all the comments below re a new 19 year old (I do not follow him or know the minutiae of his life) this tactic doesn't seem to be working. He is getting more famous and doing more outrageous things to wind people up.

As I said I do not follow him and prefer to pretend he doesn't exist on TikTok anymore (I don't have Instagram) but if you are saying that he actively trawls through Instagram to find these random girls and initiates contact then that is obviously very wrong indeed.

I am coming across wrong here - I think the guy is awful and dodgy and he is clearly a narcissist who thrives on all the attention. I would prefer to see him removed from all of the platforms as it is only serving to give him a wider pool of people to reach. He's probably delighted he has a thread on mumsnet now.

GinoVino · 05/01/2023 11:06

Oh course it working! It's highlighting his predatory behaviour for god sake! There wouldn't be thread on MN, or other internet forums, if people like Boo hadn't used their TikTok platform to bring it to the attention of other adults and parents. He probably is loving having a MN thread about him. Because he's not very intelligent and thinks winding people up is making him a famous celeb. He's not a celeb, he's notorious and he doesn't realise the difference. It's going to have disastrous consequences when someone's dad/brother/uncle beats him up. He's a silly little man who's led a sheltered life and doesn't realise the danger he's also putting himself in by being so goady on the tiktok.

MermaidEyes · 05/01/2023 11:31

ILoveeCakes · 04/01/2023 20:34

Is dating younger women ok when Leo di Caprio does it? ok

No it's not but that situation is slightly different. The women he dates are all models,actresses or influencers who have most likely signed contracts to 'date' him while getting their own 5 minutes of fame and exposure. They know what the deal is. That's different to innocent young girls and women being groomed when they have no clue what's really happening.

MaggieMagpie357 · 05/01/2023 11:40

I'm friends with some of his extended family, and even they think he's weird. He doesn't get invited to family gatherings but shows up anyway!

caravanbuckie · 05/01/2023 11:43

If Boo and the others are speaking out to try to protect people from him then according to all the comments below re a new 19 year old (I do not follow him or know the minutiae of his life) this tactic doesn't seem to be working. He is getting more famous and doing more outrageous things to wind people up.

I think we have to separate his views/fame/earnings from what people are doing by saying 'watch this man, he is not a good person'

Gerrataere · 05/01/2023 12:35

MaggieMagpie357 · 05/01/2023 11:40

I'm friends with some of his extended family, and even they think he's weird. He doesn't get invited to family gatherings but shows up anyway!

This is interesting. I have wondered if any of his family have either tried to pull him up or disassociated themselves of him, especially over the last year. He has hinted in the past that people close to him have been harassed (which is awful, they’re not the problem), I bet family get togethers with him are full of eye rolling and whispered conversations.

Hillary17 · 05/01/2023 14:48

Not sure that’s a fair representation. The girl looked nervous because she said she’s been getting hassled by other people online, and she’s worried they know where she lives.he’s been seen by the police before I think and nothings has been followed up because he’s not done anything illegal. Not agreeing with him or that it’s not cringey - but that Boo girl is genuinely obsessed with him at this point, every video she makes is about him in some way and that’s equally creepy.

Mumofgin · 05/01/2023 15:10

Hopefully one day someone in his family will speak out about his behaviour and confirm everything because Paul never will, he’ll continue praying on vulnerable women

Yeahrightthen · 05/01/2023 15:13

Paul is a disgusting ham faced pervert

PMSL!🤣

GinoVino · 05/01/2023 15:19

Hillary17 · 05/01/2023 14:48

Not sure that’s a fair representation. The girl looked nervous because she said she’s been getting hassled by other people online, and she’s worried they know where she lives.he’s been seen by the police before I think and nothings has been followed up because he’s not done anything illegal. Not agreeing with him or that it’s not cringey - but that Boo girl is genuinely obsessed with him at this point, every video she makes is about him in some way and that’s equally creepy.

Clearly you don't follow or watch Boo's videos of you think every one she makes is about him! And nice bit of victim blaming there. She talks about her own abuse and she talks about mental health. You

LookingForTipsNotPuns · 05/01/2023 15:22

but that Boo girl is genuinely obsessed with him at this point, every video she makes is about him in some way and that’s equally creepy.

No, shes warning people about a paedophile. Not creepy, she should be applauded.

Unicorn2022 · 05/01/2023 15:37

LookingForTipsNotPuns · 05/01/2023 15:22

but that Boo girl is genuinely obsessed with him at this point, every video she makes is about him in some way and that’s equally creepy.

No, shes warning people about a paedophile. Not creepy, she should be applauded.

Oh come on - Boo is absolutely obsessed with him and it's ridiculous to say she isn't. I'm not saying she doesn't have good intentions but she spends an alarming amount of time on him. It can't be good for her.

Is there actual proof that he is a paedophile? I thought the girls in question were late teens and I hadn't seen anything to say that he has targeted any prepubescent children. How is he still walking around freely if that's the case.

Hillary17 · 05/01/2023 15:41

I’m not saying he’s not cringey… but he’s not a peadophile if the girls are 16-20 or have a big age gap. None of whom have reported him to the police. It’s damaging to people who have been victims to claim this; or as Boo has done, try to make every single person out to be someone that’s been groomed. The girl is literally a sex worker who has said she loves being on Only Fans. He’s a creepy guy who dances like a weirdo, but theres been no charges, he’s not legally broken any laws and seems like they both knew what they were doing.