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American needs to fight against terror closer to home

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josil · 25/05/2022 00:25

And focus their energy on teenage boys who seem to be causing terror frequently by shooting us schools. Supermarkets etc etc.

What never ceases to amaze me is somehow these shooters manage to escape the stereotypes that others ethnic groups find it impossible to shake off.

RIP to those dead ok the latest massacre in the US.

The US needs to fight against terror and start with those close to home.

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josil · 25/05/2022 00:26

America* the title was supposed to read

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alphons · 25/05/2022 00:28

It amazes you. It disgusts and depresses me.

YANBU.

It’s homegrown terror, pure and simple. White supremacy, cultivated at home.

TraceyLacey · 25/05/2022 00:29

And not by arming schoolteachers!

ElenaSt · 25/05/2022 00:31

Salvador Ramos.

Not exactly white supremacy is he? Hmm

American needs to fight against terror closer to home
HeddaGarbled · 25/05/2022 00:34

Biden and the Democrats would like to change the gun laws but are obstructed by Republicans.

Whilst that argument is ongoing, and it’s going to grind on for a long time yet, do you think they should ignore everything else that is going on in the world?

That’s a Republican stance too: America first (well, just the Americans they approve of, of course); fuck everyone else.

josil · 25/05/2022 00:35

@ElenaSt I am pretty sure Spanish people are considered white yes, but I digress

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pixie5121 · 25/05/2022 00:42

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BritWifeInUSA · 25/05/2022 01:00

josil · 25/05/2022 00:35

@ElenaSt I am pretty sure Spanish people are considered white yes, but I digress

He’s Hispanic. But I’m not sure what point you are making about race.

What do you think the solution is? Make all guns illegal? That’ll keep them off the streets, wing it? I mean, it worked for heroin and cocaine, right?

You are missing the point when it comes to gun ownership. Stopping responsible law-abiding gun owners from having guns will not stop this sort of thing from happening.

AskingforaBaskin · 25/05/2022 01:02

BritWifeInUSA · 25/05/2022 01:00

He’s Hispanic. But I’m not sure what point you are making about race.

What do you think the solution is? Make all guns illegal? That’ll keep them off the streets, wing it? I mean, it worked for heroin and cocaine, right?

You are missing the point when it comes to gun ownership. Stopping responsible law-abiding gun owners from having guns will not stop this sort of thing from happening.

Yes it does. And that has been proven in every developing country that has banned guns.

It's worked. The USA is just to fucked up and backwards to do it.

Flaxmeadow · 25/05/2022 01:19

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The vast majority of Mexicans are of Spanish descent. So yes white

Flaxmeadow · 25/05/2022 01:23

Access and availability of firearms is a huge problem for the USA. Its completely insane, especially in states like Texas. If there were no guns, there be no mass shootings. Just like no crack or heroin on the streets would mean no addicts. No booze, no alcoholics and so on

KobaniDaughters · 25/05/2022 01:24

Flaxmeadow · 25/05/2022 01:19

The vast majority of Mexicans are of Spanish descent. So yes white

Actually they are defined as Latino in all census’ in America, people from central and South America are most certainly not afforded the privilege of being considered white

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 25/05/2022 01:27

You are missing the point when it comes to gun ownership. Stopping responsible law-abiding gun owners from having guns will not stop this sort of thing from happening.

@BritWifeInUSA Weird how it does exactly that in countries with gun control eh? Off the top of my head I can think of about 3 instances of mass shootings in the UK, one in Australia, 2 or 3 in France and the same for Germany in my lifetime. America has had 198 mass shootings including 27 at schools in 2022 but yeah, gun control doesn't work....

Flaxmeadow · 25/05/2022 01:27

KobaniDaughters · 25/05/2022 01:24

Actually they are defined as Latino in all census’ in America, people from central and South America are most certainly not afforded the privilege of being considered white

You do know Spain colonised parts of central America?

Pickabearanybear · 25/05/2022 01:27

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SomersetONeil · 25/05/2022 01:31

BritWifeInUSA · 25/05/2022 01:00

He’s Hispanic. But I’m not sure what point you are making about race.

What do you think the solution is? Make all guns illegal? That’ll keep them off the streets, wing it? I mean, it worked for heroin and cocaine, right?

You are missing the point when it comes to gun ownership. Stopping responsible law-abiding gun owners from having guns will not stop this sort of thing from happening.

So why does it work for every single other country on earth?

SomersetONeil · 25/05/2022 01:33

As long as it wasn’t BritWife’s kids’ school where it happened, right?

Flaxmeadow · 25/05/2022 01:36

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Americans have labels for everything and seem to be able to 'identify' as whatever they want, doesn't make it true.

Speaking of which, seems the mass kiiller might possibly have had a few 'identity' issues going on, but not confirmed, better to wait for the full facts....

Yes guns and availability. Horrifying range of guns for sale. Huge military style automatic weapons

KobaniDaughters · 25/05/2022 01:38

Flaxmeadow · 25/05/2022 01:27

You do know Spain colonised parts of central America?

Yes but in America those of Spanish descent, directly or via central and South America are NOT considered white - by the government, police, schools etc. I can send you a copy of our last census if you want.

To call a Latino/a person white in America completely ignores the supreme injustice they suffer at every turn. Ignorant statement at best

araiwa · 25/05/2022 01:48

'No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

Flaxmeadow · 25/05/2022 01:49

KobaniDaughters · 25/05/2022 01:38

Yes but in America those of Spanish descent, directly or via central and South America are NOT considered white - by the government, police, schools etc. I can send you a copy of our last census if you want.

To call a Latino/a person white in America completely ignores the supreme injustice they suffer at every turn. Ignorant statement at best

Thats how crazy it is though in the States. In the census, you've got Americans identifying as Irish, Italian, African and so on, who've never even set foot outside America. Dont know why.

Mexicans are descended from Spanish people who colonised the area for hundreds of years. Some of the first colonisers to the whole continent were Spanish and Portuguese. Whatever the politics in the USA, Spanish people are still white historically. Europeans historically are white. The constant navel gazing Americans do over ethnic identity is all a load of divisive nonsense and anyway, we're going off topic

KobaniDaughters · 25/05/2022 01:55

Flaxmeadow · 25/05/2022 01:49

Thats how crazy it is though in the States. In the census, you've got Americans identifying as Irish, Italian, African and so on, who've never even set foot outside America. Dont know why.

Mexicans are descended from Spanish people who colonised the area for hundreds of years. Some of the first colonisers to the whole continent were Spanish and Portuguese. Whatever the politics in the USA, Spanish people are still white historically. Europeans historically are white. The constant navel gazing Americans do over ethnic identity is all a load of divisive nonsense and anyway, we're going off topic

It’s not really off topic as the shooter in question was Hispanic not white so it’s not (for once!) a white supremacist. White supremacists actually want the eradication of Latino people

Flaxmeadow · 25/05/2022 02:02

It’s not really off topic as the shooter in question was Hispanic not white so it’s not (for once!) a white supremacist. White supremacists actually want the eradication of Latino people

Only in the USA are these labels a thing that means race. Many Mexicans, actually living in Mexico, object to being classified by heavily politicised racial labels that came from the USA.

I'm sure Mexicans know their own history, even if North Americans don't

Flaxmeadow · 25/05/2022 02:08

Totally off topic but is there anyway to clear all the quotes, expect the one quote you're replying to? This new MN format doesnt seem to able to clear them individually? Ends up with a whole stream of them taking up space

Flaxmeadow · 25/05/2022 02:18

I dont know who this is, it seems like a well sports person.
He makes a plea for change

Golden State Warriors (@warriors) Tweeted: Steve Kerr on today's tragic shooting in Uvalde, Texas. t.co/lsJ8RzPcmC twitter.com/warriors/status/1529246789290934272?s=20&t=F6F61vqRMEMafxyT8nb4mg