Vegan as the default. Specifically slightly annoyed with the McPlant

[streamee]

I'm not vegan, I'm vegetarian.

I want a McPlant with proper (if American cheese slices can be called proper) cheese.

I would like to order a Big Mac, and sub out the burgers for the plant burgers!

Surely there are more people like me?

Vegan options being the default for vegans and vegetarians is very annoying. AIBU?

(No this isn't all I have to worry about in life before someone says it.)

It’s not even proper vegans. It’s the one meal a week-ers. No one ever took vegan seriously before the whole veganary thing took off (they were mocked worse than veggies before than).

I wonder how many full time vegans there are these days?

* I want *

Doesn’t get

As I say to my children

YANBU-bugs me too!

I get where the restaurants are coming from. Instead of offering a regular option, a veggie option and a vegan option, they offer just two and the veggies are expected to lump it.

Unfortunately the vegetarians are not nearly so militant and trendy as the vegans.

Baffling to me that vegetarian or vegans would darken Mac Donald’s if not just a personal taste thing

Sadly it's cheaper for businesses so they will probably carry on doing it. By defaulting to vegan they can say they cater for veggies and vegans, even though the reality is that it means the number of veggie options are dropping, boooo.

I agree.

I’m a vegetarian and hate when places don’t do a veggie option but do a vegan and that’s meant to do.

I mean of course I can eat the vegan but so can a meat eater. I don’t want to eat vegan - I like real cheese, eggs, milk etc etc I find vegan food not to my taste. In the same way a meat eater might find vegan food “lacking” in what they’d like.

It was getting better for veggies - when I first went veggie you were lucky if there was one thing on the menu (and you didn’t have to ask for the ‘chef to make something’). It was going so far as your actually have choice (shock!) or 2 or 3 items.

Now it’s one vegan dish that covers vegan, veggie, halal and kosher(ish).

@implantreplace

Baffling to me that vegetarian or vegans would darken Mac Donald’s if not just a personal taste thing

Because I love a McFlurry! And their mozzarella sticks.

@implantreplace

Baffling to me that vegetarian or vegans would darken Mac Donald’s if not just a personal taste thing

Everyone likes unhealthy food!

@BeingATwatItsABingThing

* Because I love a McFlurry! And their mozzarella sticks.*

But is your reason for vegetarianism and ethical obe?

Vegetarian sausages are now almost exclusively vegan in restaurants and they are vile.

I agree op, lifelong Vegetarian.

Completely agree about vegetarian food being replaced by vegan food. You hate vegan cheese, but I have it even worse as I hate fake meat. Yet bean burgers everywhere seem to have been replaced by fake meat burgers. Someone upthread mentioned Burger King, but I find them awful! They had a lovely bean burger but have now replaced it with TWO fake meat burgers!

Am I the only one who actually LIKES vegan cheese? 😁

@edenhills

Why are you vegetarian? Obviously it's not about animal welfare or you would be vegan. If it's about health then why are you eating in McDonalds?

ooh I am giving out my first - vegetarian, but with real butter. Vegan option available too.

I feel the same.
I ordered it without the sauce and cheese and adding my own proper cheese slice and heinz burger sauce

@Ducksurprise

Vegetarian sausages are now almost exclusively vegan in restaurants and they are vile.

I agree op, lifelong Vegetarian.

There’s definitely something they use on vegan sausages (and quorn) that has a particular taste (not nice) and it does make me feel sicky. So glad when quorn brought back their veggie bangers - and their vegan slices are revolting.

YANBU.

As a "proper" vegan who only ever eats plants I agree with you. I'll put to one side my feelings about why people would be veggie for the animals and still consume dairy, because it's your choice. If I was vegetarian I would be very unhappy about the enforced veganism. Hopefully in the future you can customise the burgers more and meat eaters who can't have lactose can have the dairy free cheese too. Even more hopefully they'll make a gf ve bun and I can have a burger with you

Usually you can at most places. Like at Burger King you can just ask for the impossible whopper but with normal cheese. And they swap it for you.

YANBU! The mcplant however is fine, that cheese tastes nice. If they can make all vegan cheese taste better I'll have no qualms. I was a vegan for 6 years and the cheese was revolting.

Nope I’m just pleased there are now more choices for vegetarians. I can cope with vege cheese and dressings to get a decent vege option.

Is the regular cheese vegetarian though?

@implantreplace

Baffling to me that vegetarian or vegans would darken Mac Donald’s if not just a personal taste thing

This is just a pretty stupid ‘gotcha’ that people use. So by those standards vegetarians can’t shop at Asda since it has a butcher counter. Can’t go to any restaurant that sells meat or fish etc.

You make the best choices for yourself.

I'm lactose intolerant and most places have stopped doing a lactose free option, it's vegan or go without.