To be really enjoying Boris Johnson's downfall Part 3 Cake ambush

[Notonthestairs]

To be really enjoying Boris Johnson's downfall Part 2 http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4459992-To-be-really-enjoying-Boris-Johnsons-downfall-Part-2

And on it goes.

@the80sweregreat

Even I find it hard to believe that Carrie has actually married and had two children with Boris Johnson just so she can help her friends obtain some money or kudos ! Blimey , IF that is true then she must be extremely loyal to her friends!!

Maybe she is a deep under cover Russian agent :)

Was pondering about why commentators were so sure that the Gray report was imminent yesterday...

They have x column inches and 24/7 news broadcasts to fill. If there is no news, they have to make it for themselves.

Jones, that is a low post even for you
I can't comprehend how you continue to defend all this. People's grief is important because we couldn't do the normal things and be with them when they died, we had to follow the rules
You clearly don't care about this element of why people are so angry about this !!
I can't see how you just you just do not care

and the allowed eating and drinking in the workplace

His interior designer was there. His wife was there. It was not a work event. All of this is known.

I agree to an extent about the nature of rolling news, but I doubt they invented it, @Florianus - multiple sources reporting that the document was about to be released, then pffft....

@JaniieJones why on earth are you still wanging on about "allowed eating and drinking in the workplace"?

@the80sweregreat

Jacob Rees mogg said that some of the rules were too rigid I believe? He is the only one I can remember saying this though and can't remember in which context or when.

I think he said it very recently.

On a lighter note... twitter.com/richardosman/status/1486620857699119110

He’ll get another column or he will be hired by GB news or LBC.

Until he gets sacked yet again for lying.

Actually, I'm not sure how attractive he would be to them. Maybe for novelty value, but I suspect they'd get sick of having to spoon-feed him all the research, and listeners will soon get tired of constant waffle and bluster.

@Notonthestairs

The idea that an MP would use "other people were doing it too" as an argument to support the PM breaking the law should be laughable to all but the most fervent supporters.

Absolutely.

Those trying to defend this government of cheats, liars and fools are relying on whataboutery, misdirection and nitpicking semantics.

Those that set the rules broke their own rules. That’s what we know to be true.

Again, and I don’t know why this is hard, if the rules were this lax why not tell everyone? I remember all the people struggling because they were isolated because everyone else had bubbled up. If only they had known that bubbles were so flexible!

Or maybe strict bubbles were essential - who knows? Certainly not the U.K. head of state.

I wished we all had broken the rules now
More people would have died and the NHS would have collapsed, but hey ho , clearly we would have all gotten away with it eh ?

I think JRM said that on Newsnight a couple of nights ago?

I saw this on the Green's Twitter feed. Very handy reference for what the rules were when the various parties took place.

[quote CryingAtTheDiscotheque]@JaniieJones why on earth are you still wanging on about "allowed eating and drinking in the workplace"?[/quote]
Because it is relevant?

'Johnson and Co have done enormous damage to the whole country and anyone who voted for him should hang their heads in shame.'

We have the most open society in Europe, plan b restrictions ended today. He didn't panic at Christmas and foist a load of restrictions on us like Sturgeon and drakeford did. Our economic growth is projected to be the highest in the G7.

So no, I'm not hanging my head in shame.

It suits those who want to oust Johnson to use people's grief and fury about covid restrictions to further their agenda

The agenda that BJ is a wholly incompetent, corruptible, slapdash, evasive liability who is unsuitable to the role of prime minister? That’s my agenda too. It’s frustrating that he’s done much, much worse but frankly if personally offending a huge proportion of individuals over something arguably less significant gets him out I’m on board with that.

To argue against the mood of the general population is to argue against democracy. Otherwise we’re (you) accepting an elitist society where people in positions of power can do whatever they want without consequence. Politicians are servants of the people, not the masters.

@merrymouse

BJ partying or not wouldn't change anyone's death

The problem is that it does.

People were obviously always going to die in 2020 and 2021, young and old and for a variety of reasons, expected and unexpected.

However, the rules meant that many spent months with limited contact with family and friends. This was partly because they were told that we were all in it together and needed to protect the NHS and save lives, partly because of fear, and partly because the rules were being enforced.

Now people are left questioning whether they did the right thing. If there was a loop hole for interior designers visiting your place of work, for 100s of people in ‘work bubbles’, was all that pain and loneliness unnecessary?

People are just beginning to process what happened, and now we find Johnson didn’t really mean what he was saying?

Merrymouse: f there was a loop hole for interior designers visiting your place of work

I'm not sure you could describe it as a "loophole". Government guidance for businesses that do work in people’s homes, was that it is up to them on a case-by-case basis what work they were happy to take on during lockdown.

Frankly, if Boz needs Peter Bone wheeled out his best defence then he's on extremely thin ice. And where's that fascinating political analyst Michael Fabricant gone? Already missing his incisive comments. What a pair.

and the allowed eating and drinking in the workplace.

Do stop slipping in this nonsense. No. 10 accepts that it wasn't allowed. By no stretch of the imagination was it reasonably necessary for work purposes.

Thanks @ClaudineClare, that’s a really handy graphic to put it all into context.

@longwayoff

Frankly, if Boz needs Peter Bone wheeled out his best defence then he's on extremely thin ice. And where's that fascinating political analyst Michael Fabricant gone? Already missing his incisive comments. What a pair.

Don't forget Nadine Dorries!

JaniieJones why on earth are you still wanging on about "allowed eating and drinking in the workplace"?

Because it is relevant?

Even though you know it isn't true?

I think I'm being ambushed by Flo and Jones rather than a cake on this thread 😂
At least Johnson can take heart that he has a few friends left to back him up

borntobequiet:
Those that set the rules broke their own rules

Most of those attending these gatherings were civil servants. They didn't set the rules. The rules were set by parliament, the advice was set by cabinet. Few MPs or cabinet members have been accused of partying.

@the80sweregreat

I think I'm being ambushed by Flo and Jones rather than a cake on this thread 😂 At least Johnson can take heart that he has a few friends left to back him up

Pointing out facts is not "ambushing" you. Why are you so scared of facts, I wonder?

Government guidance for businesses that do work in people’s homes, was that it is up to them on a case-by-case basis what work they were happy to take on during lockdown.

Interior design stretches that rule to breaking point, but it’s irrelevant because she wasn’t decorating the Cabinet Office.