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To be really enjoying Boris Johnson's downfall Part 3 Cake ambush

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Notonthestairs · 25/01/2022 22:42

To be really enjoying Boris Johnson's downfall Part 2 http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4459992-To-be-really-enjoying-Boris-Johnsons-downfall-Part-2

And on it goes.

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CSWife · 27/01/2022 09:36

I think it's a desperate shame the London Mayor elections had to be postponed from 2020 which meant that Rory Stewart couldn't continue to campaign as an independent. He was my clear favourite in the Tory leadership contest. I follow him on Twitter and he makes a lot of sense to me.

To that anyone would want to "follow" Boris, but London Mayor might have given him the platform and profile back into mainstream politics. Sadly now I think he's too far away from things.

CSWife · 27/01/2022 09:37

*NOT that anyone

the80sweregreat · 27/01/2022 09:38

Cant even made a joke now :( even a lame one like that.
The facts are that Boris Johnson and many others at those parties broke the rules in place at that time.
We will have to see what the report is saying ,or maybe the police one , but those are also FACTS and the parties were not socially distanced ( Allegra has said this on record )
I'm not scared of facts, the rules were factual and I followed them and they didn't.

CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 27/01/2022 09:42

Good thread here about gaslighting by govts

"We are about to be collectively gaslit about the Spring of 2020 and what really happened. It will be implied that your memory was the problem, not the rules. This is a common experience dealt out from governments to both disaster and conflict survivors and responders. A few tips:"

twitter.com/LucyGoBag/status/1486346892564959236

guinnessguzzler · 27/01/2022 09:42

[quote CryingAtTheDiscotheque]On a lighter note... twitter.com/richardosman/status/1486620857699119110[/quote]
Brilliant! Grin

ClaudineClare · 27/01/2022 09:47

Government guidance for businesses that do work in people’s homes, was that it is up to them on a case-by-case basis what work they were happy to take on during lockdown

Johnson sent a text to Lord Brownlow in November 2020, asking for the go ahead for Lytle to get on with the work.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59898748?at_campaign=KARANGA&at_medium=RSS

That would seem to suggest Lytle's work hadn't yet started on the flat in June 2020. It is a very very VERY convenient coincidence that the day she toddled along to Downing Street to consult with the Johnson's happened to also be the very day of a notparty for Call-Me-Churchill's birthday.

That might excuse her presence for some on this thread, but it looks more like another load of fucking lies from where I am standing.

Florianus · 27/01/2022 09:52

@merrymouse

Government guidance for businesses that do work in people’s homes, was that it is up to them on a case-by-case basis what work they were happy to take on during lockdown.

Interior design stretches that rule to breaking point, but it’s irrelevant because she wasn’t decorating the Cabinet Office.

The cabinet office is in the same building as the flat. The rules didn't specify that the person carrying out the work had to remain in one room!
merrymouse · 27/01/2022 09:59

I know this isn’t really the place, but this is one of the least painful things I have to share about Spring 2020.

My in-laws used to get the papers and a flask of tea and drive to see the view at the beach about 5 miles away and sit in the car. The police moved them on because this was non essential travel. Their bit of rule breaking was funny because they actually lived next to a beach, so the travel was completely unnecessary, and although we told them off (what if you break down?), they were very unlikely rebels.

FIL became ill a couple of months later (not Covid), and never came home. He was in hospital for 6 months. The funeral was at Christmas.

I wish now we had driven 250 sodding miles and gone to the beach with them.

itsgettingweird · 27/01/2022 09:59

@the80sweregreat

I thought that Rory Stewart was an MP, but glad to be corrected ! I don't know every single MP flo. I haven't heard Rory on the tv for a while.
He was on GMB this morning. From Jordan. So I'm guessing he's not an active Mp currently?
Florianus · 27/01/2022 09:59

@ClaudineClare

Government guidance for businesses that do work in people’s homes, was that it is up to them on a case-by-case basis what work they were happy to take on during lockdown

Johnson sent a text to Lord Brownlow in November 2020, asking for the go ahead for Lytle to get on with the work.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59898748?at_campaign=KARANGA&at_medium=RSS

That would seem to suggest Lytle's work hadn't yet started on the flat in June 2020. It is a very very VERY convenient coincidence that the day she toddled along to Downing Street to consult with the Johnson's happened to also be the very day of a notparty for Call-Me-Churchill's birthday.

That might excuse her presence for some on this thread, but it looks more like another load of fucking lies from where I am standing.

Who knows? I am simply pointing out to those who don't seem to know that the covid regulations did not prevent people having work done in their homes - and the decision was up to the workperson, not the homeowner.
the80sweregreat · 27/01/2022 10:01

No, Rory isn't an MP but i thought he was one
I saw him on tv this morning, but missed it was was from Jordon!

itsgettingweird · 27/01/2022 10:03

@the80sweregreat

Jones, that is a low post even for you I can't comprehend how you continue to defend all this. People's grief is important because we couldn't do the normal things and be with them when they died, we had to follow the rules You clearly don't care about this element of why people are so angry about this !! I can't see how you just you just do not care
Absolutely agree.

It's DISGUSTING to say people are trying to protect their grief.

People stayed home whilst loved ones died alone because Boris mandated it.

It literally was his decisions that created that.

The fact he didn't then even follow those rules himself and tries to claim he didn't even know them is just sheer disrespect for the entire nation he's meant to be leading through this.

You cannot lead with dignity and respect if your belief is that the people you govern should do as you say and not what you do.

Florianus · 27/01/2022 10:03

So I'm guessing he's not an active Mp currently?

He's not any sort of MP. He resigned from the Tory party in 2019 and announced that he would not be standing for parliament again.

merrymouse · 27/01/2022 10:05

The cabinet office is in the same building as the flat. The rules didn't specify that the person carrying out the work had to remain in one room!

You seem to have invented a new rule where people could mix as long as they were in a building with multiple dwellings/mixed use occupancy.

She was there to do a specific job in the PM’s flat. There was no need to enter the cabinet office.

SueSaid · 27/01/2022 10:06

'The facts are that Boris Johnson and many others at those parties broke the rules in place at that time.We will have to see what the report is saying ,or maybe the police one , but those are also FACTS'

The facts are food and beverages were consumed by colleagues in the workplace < sorry to repeat but some folk don't seem to understand it was allowed> . The report will clarify what overstepped the mark and what didn't.

I predict the 10 min birthday cake in the office didn't, while the 1am boozy civil servant gathering did. Can't comment on the other events as we don't know much about them but I very much doubt they all broke the rules.

Can't believe anyone is seriously suggesting Rory Stewart as a candidate for anything.

Florianus · 27/01/2022 10:07

itsgettingweird:
People stayed home whilst loved ones died alone because Boris mandated it. It literally was his decisions that created that.

It literally was not. It was the decision of parliament. You (and others) need to stop imagining that the UK has a presidential system in which the prime minister enacts legislation. Laws are enacted by parliament, guidance is promulgated by the Cabinet (in which the PM is just one voice of a large group).

itsgettingweird · 27/01/2022 10:07

The cabinet office is in the same building as the flat. The rules didn't specify that the person carrying out the work had to remain in one room!

My neighbours flat is in the same building as mine. It was against the law to go in there.

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Notonthestairs · 27/01/2022 10:08

I know plumbers and electricians were allowed to work as we had to call one of each in for emergency repairs. We had to follow quite strict safety protocols however - minimising contact, masked at all times and staying 2 meters apart.

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merrymouse · 27/01/2022 10:08

I am simply pointing out to those who don't seem to know that the covid regulations did not prevent people having work done in their homes

And I am pointing out that the Cabinet Office is a place of work.

Florianus · 27/01/2022 10:08

She was there to do a specific job in the PM’s flat. There was no need to enter the cabinet office.

I suggest you study the plans of the Nos.10-12 Downing Street.

merrymouse · 27/01/2022 10:09

@Notonthestairs

I know plumbers and electricians were allowed to work as we had to call one of each in for emergency repairs. We had to follow quite strict safety protocols however - minimising contact, masked at all times and staying 2 meters apart.
You mean you didn’t get them to join in a with a work Zoom call or just hang out?
itsgettingweird · 27/01/2022 10:10

@Florianus

itsgettingweird: People stayed home whilst loved ones died alone because Boris mandated it. It literally was his decisions that created that.

It literally was not. It was the decision of parliament. You (and others) need to stop imagining that the UK has a presidential system in which the prime minister enacts legislation. Laws are enacted by parliament, guidance is promulgated by the Cabinet (in which the PM is just one voice of a large group).

He's still part of that. He still sat there (or probably didn't because he had a history of missing all the early pandemic meetings).

He's still Pm. He still has a responsibility to follow the rules he went on national tv daily to remind us we should follow.

At a minimum he had a moral responsibility. Sadly he has no morals.

merrymouse · 27/01/2022 10:10

I suggest you study the plans of the Nos.10-12 Downing Street

Are you suggesting you have to walk through the cabinet office to get to the PM’s flat? Must be very inconvenient with 2 small children!!!

truthfullylying · 27/01/2022 10:11

@Florianus

She was there to do a specific job in the PM’s flat. There was no need to enter the cabinet office.

I suggest you study the plans of the Nos.10-12 Downing Street.

Oh come on, are you totally gullible? Grin

All this pretending just makes me laugh. You know Johnson is lying his little socks off, everyone knows.

merrymouse · 27/01/2022 10:12

It literally was not. It was the decision of parliament. You (and others) need to stop imagining that the UK has a presidential system in which the prime minister enacts legislation. Laws are enacted by parliament, guidance is promulgated by the Cabinet (in which the PM is just one voice of a large group).

So he is superfluous to requirements then? Great he can be gone by the weekend.