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Prince Andrew

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Tevion28 · 01/01/2022 23:58

Do you think guilty or innocent

OP posts:
NellieWellietheEllie · 02/01/2022 09:27

Of misusing his power and influence to have sex with teenagers who were only just over the age of consent, and then lying his arse off about the whole situation? Absolutely without any doubt, totally guilty. Of knowingly participating in trafficking of girls for the purposes of sex & possibly having sex with underage girls? I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me given his arrogance around the whole thing.

Roussette · 02/01/2022 09:28

I am not sure he is guilty of anything under UK law

He is going through a civil case under US law. Which is why he has the best lawyers in the whole of the US working for him over there for eye watering fees

Nc123 · 02/01/2022 09:29

Completely guilty and I hope with all my heart that he faces justice for it

TatianaBis · 02/01/2022 09:30

@Valeriekat

I am not sure he is guilty of anything under UK law.
It’s a civil not a criminal case.
OnTheSafeSide · 02/01/2022 09:30

If he had just fessed up when it was discovered, and said, yes I did have sex with VG, no I did not know she was trafficked etc (not sure if that is true) but it certainly would have turned out a lot better than this absolute mess he has created. Every lie leads to another.

It's that's stupid 'deny everything' mentality - I do really think he is as thick as champ tbh.

Eggshausted · 02/01/2022 09:30

Not guilty

TatianaBis · 02/01/2022 09:31

@Roussette

I am not sure he is guilty of anything under UK law

He is going through a civil case under US law. Which is why he has the best lawyers in the whole of the US working for him over there for eye watering fees

Xpost, didn’t see this.
LadyEloise1 · 02/01/2022 09:31

Great post @viques

chaosrabbitland · 02/01/2022 09:34

[quote Roussette]@chaosrabbitland

If I were you, I'd stop digging that hole any bigger.

Yes, she gave numbers of friends to Maxwell. She was procured, trafficked, young, vulnerable, she'd been sexually assaulted in the past by both a family member, she'd lived on the streets at age 14. Do you think.... given her background... she had solid judgement at a young age?

Your posts are vile. I have personal experience of this at a young age, too painful to go into on here and you don't deserve my story. You are completely clueless.[/quote]
she was i belive invited by maxwell to go on a massage course at the age of 17 , its very strange that she never says anything about her parents i believe that she was living with her dad at the time consenting to this odd proposition , one would have thought shed be angry for then letting her put herself in this position , and to be fair i didnt have solid judgement at that age , but i wasnt that thick i wouldnt have smelt a giant rat if id be offered that at 17 .

as i said im not the only one with doubts about her story
id like to see prince andrew have a proper criminal trial with her evidence that he raped her knowing she was a trafficked sex slave , but oh wait we cant have that can we , shes got no evidence he knew she was one and hed probably walk free , so instead she resorts to these civil suits knowing shes going to get rich out of it and succeed in ruining his rep , although it is already ruined so as someone else had said shes already won , all it is a farce with his word , her word , no evidence and a trial by media which if your accused of rape should be a proper criminal one
you can think im vile because i replied to the ops question with an answer you dont like , i think your pretty vile yourself with your narrow minded attacks on people whose views you dont like , and i think if im clueless you might be as well , and no i wouldnt be interested in your life story i will remain undeserving of it lol

AutumnAlmanack · 02/01/2022 09:34

I'm sorry but I still can't get over how happy she looks in that photo - a genuine happy smile. What, a Prince interested in little old moi???

CathyorClaire · 02/01/2022 09:35

Can we swap him for Anne Sacoolas?

Negotiations are underway for Anne Sacoolas to face a virtual UK court.

PA is never going to sit in a defendant's dock, even virtually.

TheKeatingFive · 02/01/2022 09:35

I'm sorry but I still can't get over how happy she looks in that photo - a genuine happy smile. What, a Prince interested in little old moi

Hmm
brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 02/01/2022 09:36

Guilty, and I hope it ends the monarchy. Put something functional in its place.

OnTheSafeSide · 02/01/2022 09:36

Oh God I am going to have to watch the interview again now, and I have a whole hell of a house (or should that be hell-hole) to clean and sort before I am back at work again!! Might have a look at that Behaviour Panel analysis of it on Youtube that someone mentioned, thanks!

CathyorClaire · 02/01/2022 09:37

@AutumnAlmanack

I'm sorry but I still can't get over how happy she looks in that photo - a genuine happy smile. What, a Prince interested in little old moi???
She was under instructions from now convicted Maxwell to keep HRH happy.
gilorga · 02/01/2022 09:37

I'm sorry but I still can't get over how happy she looks in that photo - a genuine happy smile. What, a Prince interested in little old moi???

🙄🤦🏻‍♀️

chaosrabbitland · 02/01/2022 09:37

@CathyorClaire

to be fair there are other people on social media who dont believe her account either , im not the only person in the universe who doubts her

Are you then in favour of a full return to public life and the lavish taxpayer funds that entails for Andrew?

no it would no be impossible for him to go back to that whatever the outcome , although hes still getting the lavish funds i dont know why you would think hes sitting in a delapidated cottage somewhere , the only difference is he cant play an active role in the family anymore like he wants to
daimbarsatemydogsbone · 02/01/2022 09:38

@Roussette

Anne Sacoolas is going to appear in the UK courts. That was confirmed in December
Not in person, and she won’t do any sentence here.
gilorga · 02/01/2022 09:40

to be fair there are other people on social media who dont believe her account either , im not the only person in the universe who doubts her

lots of people on social media believe the world is flat, the royals are lizards, Elvis is still here....

Roussette · 02/01/2022 09:40

@chaosrabbitland

So she's thick now, is she? Did you live on the streets, were you abused by a relative, then by someone else?

Nowhere have I said you are vile. I don't know you. I said your posts were vile. Get it right and stop twisting my words. I had no intention of giving you my 'life story' by the way. Let's just say I know a bit about this sort of thing.

You are victim blaming in the worst way possible and I find it abhorrent. That's all.

Let's not engage any further OK?
No point.
You don't believe VG, that's all I need to know.

BooksAndGin · 02/01/2022 09:41

Guilty.
Royal family needs to end, they've hidden this and protected him.
As for the girl smiling in the photo... prostitutes smile, doesn't mean they are happy doing it. They have no choice.Hmm

StormzyinaTCup · 02/01/2022 09:41

High society is, and always has been, full of degenerates and the rich and powerful have always been untouchable.

Pretty much this.
I expect they all have similar characteristics of self-entitlement, grandiosity, little self awareness and a lack of a moral compass. It's how most of them got to where they are. Prince Andrew is a good example of that, he'll be convinced that what he said in the interview was the actual truth rather than 'his truth' while everyone else is going WTAF. Most people know he is a pompous sleaze and he didn't earn the nickname 'Randy Andy' or 'Playboy Prince' apropos of nothing. Next week will be interesting.

CathyorClaire · 02/01/2022 09:42

she resorts to these civil suits knowing shes going to get rich out of it and succeed in ruining his rep

And again.

Would you then be in favour of seeing Andrew fully restored to or even currently taking part in public life?

CathyorClaire · 02/01/2022 09:43

@CathyorClaire

she resorts to these civil suits knowing shes going to get rich out of it and succeed in ruining his rep

And again.

Would you then be in favour of seeing Andrew fully restored to or even currently taking part in public life?

X-post.
BreakingGood45 · 02/01/2022 09:43

Guilty. Pampered prince who thought he get anyway with anything.