Joe Biden

[Helendee]

Genuinely interested in what people think of him and his presidency thus far. It’s a truth universally acknowledged that Trump was considered lower than a worm’s privates on Mumsnet but there seems to be little or no excitement about JB, is he really that meh?

He scares me tbh, he just seems totally out of his depth and struggles to keep his train of thought or string a sentence together. He’s much less offensive than trump but not sure he’s better!
He is just a back door for Harris to take over though, always has been

ZZTop want to bet that if anything ever happens to Biden and Harris takes over, you'll see a campaign to discredit her in some way? The insidious venom of the right is pretty legendary in the US.

@ConstanceGracy

He scares me tbh, he just seems totally out of his depth and struggles to keep his train of thought or string a sentence together. He’s much less offensive than trump but not sure he’s better! He is just a back door for Harris to take over though, always has been

Makes me a bit sick that the likely next President of the US is someone with fucking pronouns in their Twitter bio.

@pointythings

ZZTop want to bet that if anything ever happens to Biden and Harris takes over, you'll see a campaign to discredit her in some way? The insidious venom of the right is pretty legendary in the US.

Absolutely.

Meanwhile we have a president with a massive amount of experience achieving some incredible things right now. I'm glad to be here.

@Warsawa31

He seems like he is way to old and infirm to be carrying any kind of responsibility- trump was an egomaniac, Biden is just a puppet from what I've seen to be honest

Funny sort of puppet

I've seen several videos of him groping, stroking, kissing and fiddling with little girls.

@daisycottage

I've seen several videos of him groping, stroking, kissing and fiddling with little girls.

I'm sure you have. Lots of dodgy videos around. Choosing to believe them - well, that's on you.

@daisycottage

I've seen several videos of him groping, stroking, kissing and fiddling with little girls.

Created and disseminated especially for the credulous to exclaim over on social media, and to cast doubt on his moral probity.

How do you “believe” or “not believe” footage showing him touching women inappropriately and their reaction clearly being of discomfort?

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

How do you “believe” or “not believe” footage showing him touching women inappropriately and their reaction clearly being of discomfort?

Because they are edited, captioned, and presented in such a context as to make you think that's what's going on when in reality, video from a different angle and presented by a neutral source looks nothing like that.

Could you give some examples, please?

Of the two in juxtaposition?

I'm not going to do work for you. Google is just as available for you as it is for me.

You can start with the NY Times and go from there: www.nytimes.com/2020/11/02/technology/biden-video-edited.html

I’m not asking you to do the work for me. You’ve disagreed with me and stated the information I have is wrong and the information you have is correct.
You’ve said you have seen videos which clearly show a different angle and a totally different behaviour and reaction.
I’m asking you to show me that.

Preferably not behind a paywall so I can see what you’re showing me 🙂

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

I’m not asking you to do the work for me. You’ve disagreed with me and stated the information I have is wrong and the information you have is correct. You’ve said you have seen videos which clearly show a different angle and a totally different behaviour and reaction. I’m asking you to show me that.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

No, thank you. All of the evidence debunking every single claim, from cognitive decline to inappropriate touching, is out there.

81 million voters didn't somehow miss this. It just happens to all be untrue.

Then I’ll just assume you don’t have it and continue to believe what I’ve seen 🙂

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

Then I’ll just assume you don’t have it and continue to believe what I’ve seen 🙂

That's fine. We're all aware that your bad-faith attempt to draw a "debate" around frequently debunked right-wing propaganda is a time waster.

frequently debunked right-wing propaganda is a time waster

1. You haven’t debunked anything 😂
2. critical of Biden doesn’t equal right wing

I don't need to debunk anything. There are multiple sources that do so. You just don't care to search them, they might not fit your narrative.

I don’t believe anyone, especially world leaders, is above criticism.

This kind of tribalist politics is dangerous.

Do you need steps on how to operate Google? I believe "Let Me Google That For You" can help.

No. The links you’ve seen and are talking about would be more than adequate, thank you

I agree that politicians should not be above criticism. But the criticism should be on the substance of their policies and on their actions not on their person.

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

No. The links you’ve seen and are talking about would be more than adequate, thank you

Again, not going to do work on your behalf.

You can type, "Joe Biden child video debunked" into Google and be presented with an array of sources, including media outlets, non-partisan organisations, and independent verifiers who can provide what you're looking for, in whatever format you prefer and from whatever source you would deem acceptable.

Somehow I suspect none of those sources are "reputable" enough, from Reuters to Politifact and everywhere in between, which is why I won't dig for you.

UserNames here, have this one on me:

www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/12/facebook-posts/fact-checking-pedophilia-attacks-against-joe-biden/

Take particular notice of the second to last paragraph.

Bet you won't.