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India Knight

323 replies

Bitofanexpert · 20/04/2021 10:41

I take it mentioning her or her partner is banned.

Can I just say how utterly disgusted I am from learning about the actions of her partner on here- and nearly just as much from the lack of reporting of this by the press and on here too? Disgraceful. The man still has the gall to have a live Twitter account!!!

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SaintReatham · 20/04/2021 16:20

[quote alltoomuchrightnow]www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1600498-To-be-loving-the-Liz-Jone-and-India-Knight-Feud[/quote]
I am sitting here with my head in my hands that I actually remembered a thread from TWENTY TWELVE, including intervention from Sali Hughes, multiple deletions, MN royalty and all.

Ngggh. This is why my house is covered in a fine layer of grime and I've never finished the 30 Day Shred, you vipers.

Xenia · 20/04/2021 16:33

I only knew about Joyce and violence in commons bar so I thought ex soldier, drinks too much etc. Not that that justifies it.

However other than what I posted above I know nothing about this conviction. There are some very strict offences which I feared even when I scanned our old photo albums at times last year.

This is her live in boyfriend. She is not married to him.
on someone asking about her nationality I think her mother was Indian or something like that.

Jarstastic · 20/04/2021 16:37

I can’t believe the previous thread as deleted! I don’t recall seeing anything libellous.

Jarstastic · 20/04/2021 16:41

@Xenia

I only knew about Joyce and violence in commons bar so I thought ex soldier, drinks too much etc. Not that that justifies it.

However other than what I posted above I know nothing about this conviction. There are some very strict offences which I feared even when I scanned our old photo albums at times last year.

This is her live in boyfriend. She is not married to him.
on someone asking about her nationality I think her mother was Indian or something like that.

He is her live in boyfriend, used the love of a good woman in his defence.

Her last live in boyfriend whom she has a daughter with mentioned in a newspaper interview that she lives with him and his wife now.

Her mother is Indian, married first to her father (a Belgian) then Andrew Knight then Norman Foster.

BumCat · 20/04/2021 16:42

There’s no excuse for wanting to stay with someone who is capable that unless it’s to slowly poison them to death.

BumCat · 20/04/2021 16:42

*of that

TangledUp789 · 20/04/2021 16:46

@Tehmina23

I have just looked at Eric Joyce's entry on Wikipedia and it states that he was found guilty of actually making indecent images of a child rather than 'just' watching the images...

How could anyone want to stay with him??
How did he not get an actual custodial sentence!!

This means that he made an electronic copy of the images (downloaded them). He didn’t film the abuse himself.
Enterthedragons · 20/04/2021 17:02

I feel absolutely sick reading this. They should both be utterly revolted at themselves when they look in the mirror.

FlossieTeacakesFurCoat18 · 20/04/2021 17:07

It blows my mind. How can any newspaper or publisher continue to pay her to pontificate about fucking diets and face cream and what age we should have children when she's made such a hideous error of judgement in her own life? How can she show her face on twitter? How could she have said it was so awful for THEM when this came to light?

It's just unbelievable. But she seems to have mumsnet in her pocket too so I'm guessing this thread won't last long either!

BrightYellowDaffodil · 20/04/2021 17:14

@SaintReatham At least all the deletions make it quicker to read Grin

WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps · 20/04/2021 17:14

I can’t believe the previous thread as deleted! I don’t recall seeing anything libellous.

“We think it's best we lose this thread now as it's just not really in the spirit”.

I’m glad this one has been up long enough for others to read how scummy they are.

FourTeaFallOut · 20/04/2021 17:15

I don't care if I have to hand in my feminist badge, the pair of them make my fucking skin crawl.

Motnight · 20/04/2021 17:33

@WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps

I can’t believe the previous thread as deleted! I don’t recall seeing anything libellous.

“We think it's best we lose this thread now as it's just not really in the spirit”.

I’m glad this one has been up long enough for others to read how scummy they are.

The spirit of what? The truth?
stackemhigh · 20/04/2021 17:34

@LaurieFairyCake

You just know he will have claimed it's 'research' or ' no one is harmed because it's all fake' etc etc
Research that he had to access multiple times between 2012-2018 Hmm
AccidentallyOnPurpose · 20/04/2021 17:46

In general I don't agree with women being blamed for the crimes of men.

However, in this case, even if it's not criminal there's plenty to blame about her behaviour.

She chose to stay with a man convicted of watching children and babies being raped.
Being in a relationship with her was used as a defence and a mitigating (positive) factor.
She made the rape of children and babies all about her. How awful to have it public, but she is fine.
Putting this waste of oxygen before her daughter.
The media silence, which we can't prove she had a hand in ,but it's very likely.

Even if you ignore the sheer hypocrisy and all the things she blames and criticises other people for, there's plenty to blame her for.

Women who support men in their heinous crimes (unless coerced or abused) do not deserve a free pass just because they are willing. You sleep with the pigs, the stench follows.

tsmainsqueeze · 20/04/2021 18:09

It is beyond me how anyone , whatever their sex , can get into bed and be intimate with someone knowing that their sexual preference is abhorrent .
No amount of counselling , rehabilitation etc would ever make amends for such horrific behaviour , how can you be with someone knowing they wish to rape a child , a baby ?
She is a mother ! what on earth is she thinking ?

WingingItSince1973 · 20/04/2021 18:11

As a victim of child abuse, sadly many on here will be the same, I find her actions abhorrent. He is obviously the guilty one and I have no words to describe the sickness he makes me feel but for a woman (or anyone) to stand by him knowing what he likes I just couldn't.

Xenia · 20/04/2021 18:18

I still want more details. The images were on his computer. Did he put them there or did someone else? Assuming he did what exactly was found?

FourTeaFallOut · 20/04/2021 18:24

I think that he might have mentioned something like that to his lawyer before he submitted a guilty plea.

AccidentallyOnPurpose · 20/04/2021 18:26

@Xenia

I still want more details. The images were on his computer. Did he put them there or did someone else? Assuming he did what exactly was found?
There's details on the thread. There are also details online. There are details about his internet searches and the video.

How many details do you need though considering he pleaded guilty and was convicted?

notlovinglockdownlife · 20/04/2021 18:29

Is there a super injunction in force? I have not seen anything at all about this and I would have remembered as Joyce was previously married to someone I know.

He is also the father of twin girls himself who are probably early 20s by now, just disgusting. Slightly more awful for them than for IK I suspect.

RightOnTheEdge · 20/04/2021 18:31

Why is their Twitter pages not full of outrage over this?
He is even being followed by loads of famous people like Jeremy Vine and David Baddiel even Sadiq Khan!
They must know what he's done!

I don't understand it. India and Eric just chatting away about general news and football after what he's done. Like it's normal!
How is he not locked up, why is he allowed to use the Internet?

WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps · 20/04/2021 18:33

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-53694012.amp

It’s there if you look for it. Absolute monster.

Zarinea · 20/04/2021 18:36

It was widely reported at the time. They're a horrible pair, but his convictions haven't been hidden.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/07/ex-labour-mp-eric-joyce-gets-suspended-jail-sentence-over-child-abuse-image

HarrietHardy · 20/04/2021 18:39

Fucking hell.

So now I know. Never knew this before.

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