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To ask “what is the conspiracy?”

360 replies

loulou0987 · 27/11/2020 11:10

I have seen many times on social media, over the past week, people saying there is something else going on and the Covid rules are for a different reason entirely.
I just wondered if anyone truly believes the government have a different agenda for extending lockdown??

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Roominmyhouse · 28/11/2020 19:55

@Fuckingshifty

Was Covid 19 around in 2015?
Can you link to where this came from? The version I see that includes COVID-19 states it was updated in March 2020...
pinkearedcow · 28/11/2020 20:03

@Fuckingshifty

pinkearedcow

Fuckingshifty

So nobody thinks its fucking weird, we have a heatwave for the first time in 10 years which co-fucking-incides with the first lockdown. EVERY year before that snow and ice was clockwork. And the shit weather returned 'just in time' for lockdown to end... hmm 🤔

Eh? We haven't had snow and ice like clockwork across the whole of the UK for a long time, winters have been much wetter and milder for some years.

Go back, re-read my posts and highlight where I said "across the whole of the UK". Because I re-read my posts and thinking you just added that in yourself Confused

Where I live come spring we experience freezing shitty weather mostly accompanied by snow and have done for at least the last 10 years.

Nice for you its usually mild and wet. Not this year though Wink

VaggieMight
Anyone who's worked with the civil service, government or any large organisation would know that the organisations are not capable of large scale conspiracies.

Tell that to the families of the contaminated blood scandal where many gov departments around the world colluded with medical departments to hide evidence which eventually came to light many years later and after thousands of deaths.

Interesting to note that many high up government officials around the world were prosecuted, some jailed. In the UK no government officials involved were held accountable. They are perfectly capable of coluding together when it suites their interests.

Go back, re-read my posts and highlight where I said "across the whole of the UK". Because I re-read my posts and thinking you just added that in yourself

Because I have no idea where you live, I could only speak generally and say that we haven't had ice and snow across the whole of the UK every winter for a while - you didn't specify which area of the UK you were talking about so I couldn't be more specific in my comments. Apols for not being psychic!

yawnsvillex · 28/11/2020 20:32

@wanderings

It's also notable that the BBC doesn't report on anti-lockdown protests, or only very sparingly indeed.

Exactly!!!!! I've questioned this from day 1!

OutComeTheWolves · 28/11/2020 20:32

@Fuckingshifty

Was Covid 19 around in 2015?
Covid 19 stands for coronavirus disease 2019 - it would be weird if they named it that in 2015. I would suggest that screenshot has been altered in some way.
Ihatefish · 28/11/2020 20:39

I don’t think the virus itself is a deliberate conspiracy but it being used to cover up lots of things. An economy built around a dependence on China -going to be a big push on more expensive non Chinese products after this. Moving stuff to more centralised big hospitals,wfh to cut environmental damage

Nomoreboobs · 28/11/2020 21:15

It’s true the anti lockdown protests barely seem to be reported. I read that the Ines from today were reported as anti lockdown but were more based around anti mandatory vaccines. There are so many strange things, how can we not be questioning it, I also hope they’re massively incompetent and that’s it, but more and more people are getting pissed off now.

yawnsvillex · 28/11/2020 21:37

Exactly @Nomoreboobs and also the total ridiculous rules that do not make sense. How can any SANE human believe it???

Nomoreboobs · 28/11/2020 21:49

@yawnsvillex I know 🤷🏻‍♀️But, why? Why?!

Nomoreboobs · 28/11/2020 21:52

Talk radio is the only one I see questioning things tbh at the moment, in a sensible way, they have some very valid points though!

AcornAutumn · 28/11/2020 21:54

I thought batteries in birds was an MN joke?!

This is good reading

If any of you have friends or relatives working in hospitals or labs, you probably know it already

www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

SunflowerButterfly · 28/11/2020 22:06

I find it amazing how anyone could still think this is about a virus personally. Tests are 93% inaccurate as admitted by Boris, Raab and most recently a Portuguese court. Covid is put on death certificates when the body is not tested, and after 28 days of a test, so for example you could have had cancer for years and die of that, but if you tested positive for Covid, they'll put that down as the cause of death and add you to the statistics. There have been lots of families speaking up about this.

We know that masks don't work, as it's a bit like putting up a fence for mosquitoes, yet there is no sign of them admitting this. We know they are not reporting on the lockdown protests, or the many court cases and doctors and scientists across the world speaking out about this. And we know the media is very pro lockdown, pro terrifying everyone, doesn't report the actual data (such as the fact that the pandemic ended in June and there are now no excess respiratory deaths), and it's all about the vaccine, all for a virus with a 99.8% survival rate. On top of that, the people pushing the vaccine are set to make billions.

The whole thing have struck me as extremely dodgy from the start, so I started researching and none of it adds up. I'm just amazed and horrified to be honest that so many people only get their information from the mainstream media rather than researching things independently.

SheepandCow · 28/11/2020 22:21

So many people only get their information from the mainstream media

I get mine from the experts. Scientists and doctors - from around the world.

The British Medical Association, SAGE, the World Health Organisation, etc.

I highly recommend people start with Professor Devi Sridhar. Calm and intelligent explanations.

SunflowerButterfly · 28/11/2020 22:27

@SheepandCow

So many people only get their information from the mainstream media

I get mine from the experts. Scientists and doctors - from around the world.

The British Medical Association, SAGE, the World Health Organisation, etc.

I highly recommend people start with Professor Devi Sridhar. Calm and intelligent explanations.

These people are all on the same person's payroll, a person who is set to make billions from selling his vaccine. So I instead listen to independent scientists, doctors, researches and journalists who are telling the truth about what is happening, and getting censored and even arrested for doing so. I highly recommend researching:

Prof Sucharit Bhakdi
Prof Dolores Cahill
Dr Sherri Tenpenny
Dr Mike Yeadon

Nomoreboobs · 28/11/2020 22:35

I feel the same @SunflowerButterfly more people are beginning to. Any theories on wtaf is going on? Reasons to why etc?

SunflowerButterfly · 28/11/2020 22:41

@Nomoreboobs

I feel the same *@SunflowerButterfly* more people are beginning to. Any theories on wtaf is going on? Reasons to why etc?
Yes it's called The Great Reset. They are openly admitting this now, so it cannot be written off as a 'conspiracy theory.' Justin Trudeau has recently done a video talking about the Great Reset, the Prince of Wales has done a video saying we need a reset. One person behind it seems to be Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum. It is also known as Agenda 21 or The New World Order. A top down, one world, authoritarian government which has full control over the population. I know it's quite frightening for people to consider this, but unfortunately, from what I can tell and from 8 months spent researching this after I knew something was seriously wrong in March, it appears to be the truth. I wish I was wrong, who wants to be right about something like this. And I was never a 'conspiracy theorist' before covid, but since none of it added up or made any sense, I started researching. I just wish more people would research things independently rather than blindly follow whatever the BBC says.
Nomoreboobs · 28/11/2020 22:46

@SunflowerButterfly I’ve read lots about this too, my issue with it is, why would all the governments go along with this though? What will that future look like? Is that where the nonsense conspiracies tied along with this come into it-universal credit, taking peoples homes, no cash etc? How would all the governments etc be willing to live like that to?

Nomoreboobs · 28/11/2020 22:48

What in your view does the future realistically look like if this is the reason for all of this?

hopeishere · 28/11/2020 22:50

@SunflowerButterfly where did you do your research? I've an acquaintance who's a non believer and post lots of stuff online but it's all really dodgy right wing sites.

Nomoreboobs · 28/11/2020 22:54

That’s the thing, The great reset is just out there in plain sight, so surely it’s not going to be anything horrendous as people would be objecting to it all?

SunflowerButterfly · 28/11/2020 22:59

I've researched from lots of different sites, doctors, professors, independent journalists, and even government websites themselves. The Coronavirus Act itself is deeply troubling. UK Column New is a good youtube channel to look into, as is Talk Radio, and Lockdown Skeptics, and OffGuardian and Computing Forever channel on youtube.

I tend to do a wide range of research and keep an open mind, and I'm always willing to review my opinion if new information comes to light. I don't write things off as 'right wing' because that is a tactic the media uses to stop people from considering other sources. I used to believe that myself until I finally read some of the so called 'right wing' sites and found they were making valid points based on factual data and they weren't being racist or whatever else they get accused of. (Obviously some extreme right wing sites are racist, but I don't look at anything like that, most of them are centre right moderate sites).

Nomoreboobs · 28/11/2020 23:04

@SunflowerButterfly What will that future be like though and how can all governments etc go along with it? This will be their world too

SunflowerButterfly · 28/11/2020 23:05

[quote Nomoreboobs]@SunflowerButterfly I’ve read lots about this too, my issue with it is, why would all the governments go along with this though? What will that future look like? Is that where the nonsense conspiracies tied along with this come into it-universal credit, taking peoples homes, no cash etc? How would all the governments etc be willing to live like that to?[/quote]
They have gone along with it, from what I understand, because they have been paid millions to do so, and they are all part of it. This theory is backed up by the fact that one president, I think it is the one is Belarus, refused the millions of dollars he was offered to lockdown his country.

It's been planned for decades, by the billionaires who rule the earth. They own the media, so control the flow of information, hence the importance of not relying on the BBC, they own the banks, they fund the WHO, all of the scientists who are pushing for vaccines and lockdowns. It's basically about power, money and control.

The lockdowns are to destroy small businesses, and make millions unemployed and dependent on the state, because dependency equals control. From my understanding, furlough will be replaced by UBI, with conditions attached.

It will be a nightmarish totalitarian dystopia if their plan succeeds (in my view we're already halfway there), but I am hopeful that more people will wake up and that they will fail.

Feel free to think that I'm mad, and discount what I say, I'm just sharing my opinion after my research. Mostly what I'd like is people to not believe me, but to do their own research and see what they think.

justasking111 · 28/11/2020 23:07

Here in N Wales we had the chernobyl fall out. Sheep and land were tested, unsafe levels found. A farmer we knew asked the bods to test some lamb he had in his freezers, it was unsafe. The irony is that those sheep were slaughtered pre chernobyl, so the effect of two nuclear power stations might have come into it.

A few years later a report was commissioned and the local health board asked to supply statistics of cancer cases from every age group. They were just doing a national survey, the results were so shockingly high that they were never completed nor published. Again in the region of two nuclear power stations.

The powers that be will cover up anything that might cause unrest that is human nature. Covid will be used for opportunities that were undreamt of before. Again that is human nature.

I have been around a long time as a young lass I worked for the council, had to go into the basement where there was a large metal door, when I asked what was behind it they said room upon room which had been dug out during the threat of nuclear war back decades ago. Who was it for I asked. Why council workers of course I was told.

SheepandCow · 28/11/2020 23:11

So if you're right about this great plan and the billionaires, how do you explain Australia, New Zealand, the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands, Japan, Vietnam, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and many African countries? They took effective action to contain Covid and are now largely living normal lives.

Nomoreboobs · 28/11/2020 23:12

@SunflowerButterfly Every single government has agreed though (aside from the one you stated) knowing the way the world will be for their future generations and Prince Charles too. I don’t see how even millions would make people be part of it though?
What is their sim for all of us?
What can we do then, we’re screwed if that’s the case
Anyone want to come on and hopefully dispel this so I can sleep tonight