Election Part 2 (Trump thread #108)

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[quote Phoenix21]@RaptorInaPorkPieHat nah the EBay ads will turn up within a week!

He needs the cash remember 🤣

I’m loving the tone of this thread, it’s gone from despair to delicate optimism with a splash of disbelief.

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That is true.....

maybe he'll just have a garage sale in the rose garden

As Sir Alex Ferguson (famous Scottish football manager) would say

That's ok trump, let's recount and include the delayed ballots. See how much goes his way!

The spectre of the trump daughter - ugh. Let's hope she sticks to the earrings sales.

I’m allowing myself a few hours this evening to believe that Biden will win. But it’s 2020 and Trump is Teflon so I’m not seeing all those chickens hatched yet.

(Can you tell I’ve been talking to DH? a.k.a. Mr. Careful!)

Trump campaign officials told allies on the call that the first likely step would be requesting recounts in states including Wisconsin and Michigan.

Trump also signaled before the election his lawyers would intervene in Pennsylvania shortly after the election, and officials have told Trump allies they anticipate a filing there in the next few days. It wasn't yet clear yet what would constitute the legal challenge in Pennsylvania.

Trump campaign lawyers are currently on the ground in several other states, including North Carolina and Georgia, officials familiar with the matter said.

Trump winning biggly.

So, if the vote goes Donald's way, don't recount.
If it doesn't, recount, call it fraud.

Ok Donald, that works!

Twillock.

Peter Baker @peterbakernyt
Trump campaign says it will request a recount in Wisconsin, where Biden has eked out a narrow victory with nearly all votes counted. "The president is well within the threshold to request a recount and we will immediately do so," says Stephen.

Not declared yet and already asking for a recount.

Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar
Sigh. Totally predictable. But given previous recounts have only changed result by a few hundred votes max, while Biden is ahead 20k, seems like a waste of time...

..but then this is Trump.

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@BruceAndNosh

Trump campaign sending out begging letters / emails to fund the legal challenge. Obviously Trump doesn't believe enough in his case to actually put up any of his own money

Unless he doesn't have any money of his own... it has always been other people's money, really, hasn't it?

I wonder if people will be willing to cough up.

Don't suppose he understands the famous MN "sunk costs" fallacy for emotional investments!

I wonder if people will be willing to cough up.

Trump is a con man and a grifter. Of course people will cough up.

www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/11/03/the-us-2020-election-results?utm_campaign=editorial-social&utm_medium=social-organic&utm_source=twitter

I wonder if people will be willing to cough up.

In the sane way that those TV evangelicals manage to convince desperately poor people to send them thousands of dollars, I don’t think 45 will have any issues fundraising.

“A fool and his money are easily parted”, isn’t that what they say.

“same way” that should read. Nothing “sane” about this circus.

@BloomedAgain

Do we expect many more results to come in today? I'm in bed with a fever so this is very surreal.

Hope you're ok @BloomedAgain ?

This never happens! So many times we have early optimism for it to evaporate, and turn to ashes in our mouthes. It never goes the other way! Just the for the right, gurning and sneering their way back to power.

I can't believe it will be ok this time until it is.

Is it too early to start drinking yet? I’m so exhausted by it all.

My apologies, this made oi larf. It will only be understood by a small section of UK readers, listeners to BBC R4, from the "I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue Appreciation Society" on FB.

*Breaking News.

The US election will be decided by a game of Mornington Crescent (DC rules). A tie will be resolved using Duckworth-Lewis.*

No results from Nevada until tomorrow. From BBC:

“Nevada's secretary of state has just announced that no more vote tallies will be released until Thursday morning. He said the decision was made to ease pressure on counties to ensure they have time to tabulate their votes accurately.

In northern Nevada, Washoe County is running a livestream of vote counting, so citizens can see how the sausage is made for themselves.

Biden is currently leading in the state by less than 8,000 votes and with about 85% of the vote counted.

In a phone call with reporters earlier today, top Trump aide Jason Miller said that Nevada is a state "rife with corruption", though offering no evidence.

The White House has expressed frustration over the Democratic-led state's decision to send mail-in ballots to all registered voters.”

A federal judge was so angered by the US Postal Service's inability to sweep its facilities for ballots yesterday afternoon, following a court order to do so, that he said he will want answers under oath from Postmaster General Louis DeJoy.

"I agree the Postmaster is either going to have to be deposed or testify before me under oath," federal Judge Emmet Sullivan said on Wednesday. "

He said he was not pleased the USPS couldn't comply with the Election Day court order, and didn't notify him until the court's deadline passed that they didn't have personnel on site in facilities to look for ballots in the mid-afternoon.

Not this is NOT a democratic legal challenge in Georgia but a judge unhappy at previous court order prior to close of polls.

I must be a real optimist - i believe there is enough big business keen on a trump win (he's getting rid of expensive environmental protections etc), but I don't believe they've got a leg to stand on, so it will be ok.

the trump money backers aren't stupid, they're cynical and self interested.

If Biden wins the electoral college and the popular vote, the mail in recounts are highly likely to go his way too. The Trump game will be up by Friday.

USPS have been failing mail in vote delivery targets for days

@anon444877

USPS have been failing mail in vote delivery targets for days

I thought that was at Trump's behest, or am I too cynical?

Sheer incompetence seems the more likely, I can't see how USPS could've coordinated all those US posties to do a bad job!

@anon444877 - I'm taking offence on behalf of the US posties I know, who do a damn fine job!