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The final countdown to Election Day 2020 is on (Trump thread #106)

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GetTheDoorFrank · 08/10/2020 22:45

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4037771-Presidential-Debate-season-lets-stand-strong-together-Trump-thread-105
Link to previous thread...
Here is to the next 10 pages of unexpected and more so unexplainable shenanigans of SCROTUS and co...

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/10/2020 15:41

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/10/us/trump-properties-swamp.html

NEW: In part 4 of The President's Taxes, my colleagues and I report on how Trump transplanted Washington's favor-seeking to his family’s hotels & resorts — earning millions as a gatekeeper to his own administration.

We found over 200 companies, special-interest groups and foreign governments that patronized Trump properties while reaping benefits from him and his administration. Nearly a quarter of those patrons have not been previously reported.

Tax data shows that just 60 customers with interests at stake before the Trump administration brought his family business nearly $12 million in the first two years of his presidency.
That is merely a snapshot of the special interest money flowing through Trump Org.
twitter.com/nickconfessore/status/1314934676331663361?s=21

TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/10/2020 15:46

Did someone say "rats" and "sinking ship"?

The barrier has been breached. A Republican senator fighting for reelection says he and his colleagues are needed to check a Biden presidency. This is likely to spread.
twitter.com/ryanlizza/status/1314937196663767042?s=21

Thom Tillis is talking openly about a Trump defeat: “The best check on a Biden presidency is for Republicans to have a majority in the Senate.”
twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1314926460692582400?s=21

TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/10/2020 16:04

Oil, gas, coal & finance billionaires including Kochs have spent $157 million and counting to confirm Barrett.

These shadowy groups are spending millions to put Amy Coney Barrett on the Supreme Court
www.mic.com/p/these-shadowy-groups-are-spending-millions-to-put-amy-coney-barrett-on-the-supreme-court-37900176

Lweji · 10/10/2020 16:08

“The best check on a Biden presidency is for Republicans to have a majority in the Senate.”

Of course it can be reversed. The best check for a possible and dangerous 2nd Term is a Democrat Senate majority. Even if you don't normally vote Democrat.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/10/2020 16:16

Absolutely Lweji Smile

giletrouge · 10/10/2020 16:16

The Guardian - During an appearance on Rush Limbaugh’s show on Friday, Donald Trump said antibody treatment Regeneron had been crucial for his recovery from Covid-19.
“I was in not great shape and we have a medicine that that healed me, that fixed me,” Trump said. “It’s a great medicine. I mean I feel better now than I did two weeks ago. It’s crazy. And I recovered immediately, almost immediately. I might not have recovered at all from Covid.”

Someone needs to tell him that anecdote is not data.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/10/2020 16:20

Chris Christie.

I am happy to let you know that this morning I was released from Morristown Medical Center. I want to thank the extraordinary doctors & nurses who cared for me for the last week. Thanks to my family & friends for their prayers. I will have more to say about all of this next week.
twitter.com/govchristie/status/1314917226407919617?s=21

Words · 10/10/2020 18:14

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/10/2020 18:28

Given Trump's obsession with mail in votes, he'll leap on this like a failed real-estate fraudster on a porn star.

About 50,000 Ohio voters receive wrong absentee ballots
thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/520432-about-50000-ohio-voters-receive-wrong-absentee-ballots

TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/10/2020 19:02

Trump on WH balcony now re-enacting his Evita impression to a crowd of blue t-shirted lost souls.

PerkingFaintly · 10/10/2020 19:15

Lalalalalala!

He starts rumours. Other people start rumours. He's all smoke and mirrors and a craving for adulation.

I said a few months (weeks? time is strange) ago that he'd prefer not to run than to run and lose. But I'm not going to let him dangle hope in front of me and then jerk it away.

Plus, WTF would happen to the election now he's the nominee? If he resigned from current office, would he stand again and be elected again in a few weeks' time, post Pence's pardons? Bibble!

TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/10/2020 19:16

I just can't see it. He's on the balcony now lapping up the love. He wouldn't be able to tolerate himself being labelled a loser - which resigning would surely represent to him.
But if I've learned anything over the last 4 years it's I don't know what the fuck to believe or expect!

TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/10/2020 19:37
  1. Campaign rally flop

Invited 2,000

“About 400 or so here” - @JenniferJJacobs

Even Fox News agrees (with a little rounding up?): “about 500” showed up.

  1. Covid precaution flop

Looks like they’re packing people closer together for a better photo image.
twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1314993737366482949?s=21

The final countdown to Election Day 2020 is on (Trump thread #106)
Roussette · 10/10/2020 19:50

VeryLittleOwl

Thanks for the links. I wonder what on earth is happening Shock

Roussette · 10/10/2020 19:53

Being a bit thick... what's the blue?
Rain ponchos?

Roussette · 10/10/2020 19:54

BREAKING: According to
@JewishNewsUSA
,
@realDonaldTrump
held a meeting this morning with senior campaign staff, legal advisors and his children to discuss his possible resignation. Resignation would be contingent on a pardon by Pence, and the dismissal of SDNY criminal charges

BruceAndNosh · 10/10/2020 20:23

Can you be pardoned for something that you haven't been charged with?

Hey, you're pardoned for any wrongdoing wherever whenever. Hey put that gun down!

TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/10/2020 20:58

Roussette the blue are t-shirts paid for by Candice Owens. She organised and paid to bus the supporters in.

Trump needs to stay President to stay out of jail. No amount of ”resign and let Pence pardon him” lets him escape NY State charges since they explicitly changed their dual sovregnity/double jeopardy rules to prevent this.

From Rick Wilson. Lincoln Project:
Trump isn’t resigning. Cut that fucking bullshit out right now.
we have 20+ days of hard battle to go and bullshit distractions like this do not help anyone.
twitter.com/therickwilson/status/1314997958866210816?s=21

PerkingFaintly · 10/10/2020 21:04

Yeah, I'm with Rick Wilson here. Any amount of dead-catting is going to go on.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/10/2020 21:14

Candace Owens' BLEXIT group pays for some attendees' travel to Trump's White House event
Attendees were told they "must" wear a BLEXIT shirt, according to emails.
abcnews.go.com/Politics/candace-owens-blexit-group-pays-attendees-travel-trumps/story?id=73531036

AcrossthePond55 · 10/10/2020 21:17

@BruceAndNosh

Can you be pardoned for something that you haven't been charged with?

Hey, you're pardoned for any wrongdoing wherever whenever. Hey put that gun down!

Yes. Ford gave Nixon 'a full and complete pardon for any and all crimes he may have committed whilst he was president' a month after Nixon resigned.

I'm sure Scrotus' potential resignation has been discussed. I'm sure they're discussing every possible which-way to avoid criminal prosecution. Scrotus being put on trial will start a huge domino effect in criminal cases against everyone in his circle. If he goes down, he's going to take every one of them down with him. He's going to sing like a canary and try to put the blame on everyone but himself. I wonder if even Ivanka will be immune.

As far as Scrotus resigning nothing will happen until after the election. When Biden is confirmed as the winner it's quite possible that Scrotus will resign under the condition that Pence will pardon him. Or he may choose to ride out the term and then pardon himself (Nixon considered doing it) right before the inauguration.

Even though the first scenario would be 'right and tight' based on the Nixon pardon, I think the second scenario would be more to his taste. He'd see it as a final exercise of his 'absolute power'. It would also tie up any criminal case for years as they'd have to fight through the courts on the issue of 'self pardon' first. Plus with his stacked SCOTUS, they may well rule in his favour.

Would his ego overrule his instinct for survival? Who knows.

There's still the issue of charges brought by NY and any other state. Presidential pardons are only for federal crimes. They'd have no reason or incentive to agree to drop the charges.

Roussette · 10/10/2020 21:23

That's such an insight Across thank you, it makes me realise how little I know!

Roussette · 10/10/2020 21:58

I need to know...

Can a POTUS do this sort of what we call Party Politicial / Trump rally at the WH?
The audience were shouting, chanting slogans, whooping and hollering... how can the WH be used like this??

twitter.com/atrupar/status/1314993420264443904