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The final countdown to Election Day 2020 is on (Trump thread #106)

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GetTheDoorFrank · 08/10/2020 22:45

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4037771-Presidential-Debate-season-lets-stand-strong-together-Trump-thread-105
Link to previous thread...
Here is to the next 10 pages of unexpected and more so unexplainable shenanigans of SCROTUS and co...

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lionheart · 31/10/2020 09:28

Yes, it resonates with me too.

No giving up. Smile

lionheart · 31/10/2020 09:29

We are going to need a new thread soon and perhaps it will be THE thread. Smile

TheNorthWestPawsage · 31/10/2020 09:30

Roussette I think we'll be hurtling through the threads so I'd get few lined up! 👍🏻

Tired but not giving up.

The final countdown to Election Day 2020 is on (Trump thread #106)
Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 31/10/2020 09:33

Looking forward to your new thread, thank you, @Roussette.

I am dreading the next few days. I truly feel as if the world will come to an end within the next few years, if not months, if Trump is re-elected, in conjunction with Brexit and what is looking like worldwide lockdown due to the pandemic.

Roussette · 31/10/2020 09:50

OK, I'm stuck in today as the remnants of Hurrican Zeta are swirling round where I live so I will make sure we don't run out, and start a new one later!

Yes to that meme. Tired of it all, especially his ghastly family. Just seen Jr. saying that his father has beaten the virus and there are no deaths.

It's on Fox (where else) but Ingraham's sister is kicking out saying this...
Curtis Ingraham
@CurtisIngraham1
And my sister just sits there allowing this son of con to talk and lie repeatedly all the while looking at him adoringly. Repulsive! 1,016 Americans actually died today Laura. Do you even care?!

twitter.com/CurtisIngraham1/status/1322009150243495937

lionheart · 31/10/2020 09:54

How many different ways can they destroy democracy and lives alike?

lionheart · 31/10/2020 11:10

Sarah and Helen.

crooksandliars.com/2020/10/watch-sarah-cooper-and-helen-mirren

Roussette · 31/10/2020 11:19

Loved that lion , and I love Helen. Hilarious 😂😂

how that Republican Senator said she'd never heard of it was laughable. If people across the pond had heard it countless times, does she think we're all stupid... how would she not know what the prospective President was doing.

AcrossthePond55 · 31/10/2020 11:46

@Roussette

Loved that lion , and I love Helen. Hilarious 😂😂

how that Republican Senator said she'd never heard of it was laughable. If people across the pond had heard it countless times, does she think we're all stupid... how would she not know what the prospective President was doing.

She's just using a version of Scrotus' normal line when asked about an 'inconvenient person/truth"; "I don't know him/her" or "Nobody told me that".
Roussette · 31/10/2020 11:47

To carry on with his rallies after the election is just a means of inciting violence surely

I would much prefer this scenario come january...
www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-biden-wins-arrested-sdny-william-barr-us-election-2020-b1451883.html

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 31/10/2020 12:02

"Top surrogates for President Trump’s reelection campaign"

Please, what does this meanh? To me a surrogate is someone who does something instead of the person who ought to be doing it, as in "Trump is a surrogate President". What does it mean in the context of a campaign?

TheNorthWestPawsage · 31/10/2020 12:09

From The Hill report that Trump may continue campaigning after Nov 3rd:

“There’s been discussions about travel opportunities for Trump and his family if we don’t have a result on Election Day, but nothing definitive on where he would go or how many people we would deploy,” another campaign aide told Politico.

How about the dark side of the moon? (No quarantine necessary)

TheNorthWestPawsage · 31/10/2020 12:18

Not seen/heard much from Traitorous Bill Barr recently. Must be busy churning out the mountain of self-serving pardons that Trump is going to sign between Nov 4th and Jan 20th.

AcrossthePond55 · 31/10/2020 12:19

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom

Hello, everyone, thanks for keeping this going for so long! The Electoral College can really screw things up for Biden, right? Is it avoidable? And if it is, and if the Democrats get in, will it be possible for an Amendment to be passed to stop the stupidity of the Electoral College superseding the popular vote?
It's really complicated. Each state has a certain number of electors (based on population). Electoral votes are 'winner take all' with the exception of two states (Me & Ne) where they are apportioned by county.

But each state has its own 'rules' about the elector's voting. Some states require their electors to vote for the candidate who got that state's popular vote, period, no matter how many rounds of voting it takes. Some say their electors only have to vote for that candidate on the first go-round and if there is no clear winner in the EC, the electors are free to vote however they choose in subsequent votes (so called 'faithless electors'). So, theoretically yes, the EC could screw things up for Biden. Has it ever happened? No.

There have been 4 times a candidate has won the nation's popular vote, but hasn't won in the EC. But this isn't because the electors didn't vote their state's choice, it's because of the distribution of the number of electors amongst the states. A lot of wins in 'little states' can 'swing' an election away from wins in 'big states'. The 5th time the popular vote winner wasn't confirmed by EC was Bush v Gore (2000) when the SCOTUS stepped in, stopped the recount and gave the state to Bush.

To abolish the EC, there would have to be an amendment to the Constitution. There are 4 methods, each is complicated and lengthy and involves Congress and then ratification votes by the States. The other issue is that IF a change to the Constitution is seriously proposed, it 'opens' the rest of the Constitution up to changes at the same time, and no one really wants that.

lionheart · 31/10/2020 12:21

I'm not sure the Space Force would like that North.

Just imagine what it would do to the collective psyche if the 'man on the moon' was Trump.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 31/10/2020 12:25

I could live with that lion

AcrossthePond55 · 31/10/2020 12:27

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

"Top surrogates for President Trump’s reelection campaign"

Please, what does this meanh? To me a surrogate is someone who does something instead of the person who ought to be doing it, as in "Trump is a surrogate President". What does it mean in the context of a campaign?

A 'campaign surrogate' is a politician, celebrity or 'person of influence' who campaigns on a candidate's behalf.

I guess in this case it means that such people have been put on 'stand by' to make appearances at rallies post-election. 🤷🏼‍♀️

TheNorthWestPawsage · 31/10/2020 12:31

The Associated Press, one of several news organizations whose declarations of winners drive election coverage, is pulling back the curtain this year to explain how it is reaching those conclusions.

The AP plans to write stories explaining how its experts make decisions or why, in tight contests, they are holding back. If necessary, top news executives will speak publicly in interviews about the process, said Sally Buzbee, senior vice president and executive editor.

Given high interest in the presidential race, the complicating factor of strong early voting and President Donald Trump’s warnings about potential fraud, television executives are making similar promises of transparency.

“The general public has a more intense desire to understand it at a nitty-gritty level,” Buzbee said. “We don’t want to be a dark, mysterious black box of ‘We’re going to declare a winner, and we’re not going to tell you how we do it.’ I don’t think that benefits us, and I don’t think it benefits democracy.”

The AP’s decision desk expects to call some 7,000 races next week, from the presidency to state ballot initiatives and legislative races.

For each state, a Washington-based analyst is paired with a race caller who studies political history and demographic trends. If it’s a state where the presidential contest isn’t close, the AP may declare a winner after polls have shut based mostly on interviews conducted with voters through its AP VoteCast survey.

The closer a race is, the more AP’s decision desk relies on actual votes rather than VoteCast. Key counties are watched to see how the numbers compare with party enrollments and trends in previous elections. A winner is declared when the AP concludes there’s no way the loser can catch up.

apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-television-elections-sally-buzbee-3cd9534435424b9bb3d499db3e887835

lionheart · 31/10/2020 12:35

Grin North.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 31/10/2020 12:38

Thank you, Across.

I can think of no more soul-sapping task than to campaign for something which cannot be granted, ie for votes in an election after voting in that election has closed.

Possibly serves right any person prepared to be a stand-in or stunt Trump, really.

maggiethecat · 31/10/2020 13:11

My sister lives in the US and recalled last night how she went to bed in 2016 seeing that the Dems had done well in a number of states and then woke up to hear Trump had won and felt she was in the twilight zone 🤣

Can't bear the thought!