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Less than 100 days and counting... (Trump thread #103)

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Roussette · 01/08/2020 07:49

Here we go...

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AcrossthePond55 · 12/08/2020 19:24

So he was first ignorant and then stupid -- but I don't think getting someone's name wrong is racist. There are things which are, but that is not one of them.

I think it is if one persists in mispronouncing a name not common in one's culture after being given the correct pronunciation (as Fucker was). But IMHO the real issue is that I doubt very much that Fucker would continue to mispronounce a man's name. He certainly never had a problem with the correct pronunciation of 'Barack'. I don't recall him ever pronouncing it 'Barrack' (as is where soldiers sleep) or 'Burruck' or 'whatever'. I find it hard to believe that hedidn't know how to pronounce Kamala. Her name, pronounced correctly, has been all over the media (including Fox) for the last 10 months (or whenever she announced her candidacy). Regardless of pronunciations, he has shown himself on air as a racist and a misogynist. How much of it is to keep his job or pander to his fans, who knows? I don't think he has a lot of journalistic integrity. Chances are if someone offered him double the salary to work at MSNBC he'd jump at it and espouse the liberal creed as if he invented it.

In my former career I dealt daily with clients of many nationalities. If I was unsure of how to pronounce their names I would either seek out a coworker familiar with the language and ask them or I would do my best and then ask the client "Did I get that right?".

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 12/08/2020 19:42

I don't as a rule assume racist as more probable than stupid and ignorant. A person can easily manage to be all three, but I don't assume it.

Lweji · 12/08/2020 19:46

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

I don't as a rule assume racist as more probable than stupid and ignorant. A person can easily manage to be all three, but I don't assume it.
It's Tucker Carlson, so... But you're right. It could be sexism instead. In fact probably. Or as well.

She's been a Presidential candidate and he's had many opportunities to learn how to pronounce her name correctly.

Cacacoisfarraige · 12/08/2020 19:50

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BruceAndNosh · 12/08/2020 19:53

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime but I don't think getting someone's name wrong is racist Getting it wrong isn't racist, saying it doesn't matter (or not making the slightest effort to get it right) is, just because she doesn't have a familiar WASP first name.
Tucker manages to pronounce Trump's first name as Don-ald, he doesn't say Doh-nald then insist it's not important.

Cacacoisfarraige · 12/08/2020 19:56

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 12/08/2020 20:12

I would definitely have thought it was sexism before I thought it was racism; but then a lot of names in America are not obvious, not just ones from non-Anglic cultures. They seem to be quite capable of messing up ordinary names without any extra cultural input at all.

I think everyone calling him Tooker would be less obvious, and also more similar to his own fuckwittery, than calling him Fucker.

cozietoesie · 12/08/2020 20:19
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cozietoesie · 12/08/2020 20:54
cozietoesie · 12/08/2020 20:57

Eorry

Roussette · 12/08/2020 21:00

In my former career I dealt daily with clients of many nationalities. If I was unsure of how to pronounce their names I would either seek out a coworker familiar with the language and ask them or I would do my best and then ask the client "Did I get that right?

But you're a decent person Across unlike Carlson.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 12/08/2020 21:38

Biden, Harris and their spouses are due to appear together today (soon) to kick off their campaign. (Cue Trump throwing a dead cat on the table to try and switch the headlines back to him.)

BruceAndNosh · 12/08/2020 21:54

Cue Trump throwing a dead cat on the table to try and switch the headlines back to him
Mike Pence in some fake ears aughta do it

GetTheDoorFrank · 12/08/2020 22:37

I had to listen to people who came to my work today tell us that trumps being a total balloon is all an act and he is a very intelligent man and is going to save the world... I nearly bit my tounge in half not responding i just couldnt think of anything to say that would of got through to them

TheNorthWestPawsage · 12/08/2020 22:39

Biden's speech was good. Harris's was great. Trump will pretend he didn't watch. But he will have and he will have hated it! Grin

Lweji · 12/08/2020 22:44

@GetTheDoorFrank

I had to listen to people who came to my work today tell us that trumps being a total balloon is all an act and he is a very intelligent man and is going to save the world... I nearly bit my tounge in half not responding i just couldnt think of anything to say that would of got through to them
Ask them questions.
Lweji · 12/08/2020 22:45

Meanwhile, the attacks on Harris origin have already started.
on.forbes.com/6183GigqS

Even in Portugal I've seen an attack based on her Indian vs black heritage, as if she could only be one or the other, so one must be false.

PerkingFaintly · 12/08/2020 22:49

Just get out yer clicky pen, Frank. Grin

PerkingFaintly · 12/08/2020 22:56

Trump-worshipping life form: "trumps being a total balloon is all an act and he is a very intelligent man"
MNer [straight faced]: "Uh-huh. He does hide it well, doesn't he?"

Dunno. I guess they don't respond to facts, and they do expect and enjoy outrage. So, neither of those...

AcrossthePond55 · 12/08/2020 23:15

DH and kept saying "It's so GOOD just to hear coherent speech-making again!".

DH and I went out right after to get a celebratory Starbucks, lol.

Can't wait to see what Scrotus comes up with on Twitter. Not gonna go look, but I'm sure we'll all hear about it!

TheNorthWestPawsage · 12/08/2020 23:26

Trump doing another presser now. Even more subdued/lower energy than yesterday- Like he's been hit with a tranquilliser dart!
Yawn - poor journalists sitting through this everyday. Com to think of it.... why am I? HmmHmmGrin

TheNorthWestPawsage · 12/08/2020 23:27

*come

lionheart · 13/08/2020 01:46

God, if only someone would hit him with a tranquilliser. Every day.

lionheart · 13/08/2020 01:51

Pirro on Fox news:

"Something's going to happen (to Joe Biden) before the election, He's not even going to be on the ticket."