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Acquitted but still impeached ... Trump thread 99

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TheClaws · 12/02/2020 03:00

I’ll tell you a funny story. I’m a member of a very right-wing US politics online discussion group for kicks. The moderator of the group controls - and gets involved in - every discussion. (I should say the membership of this group is over 50K and the number of posts a day is generally 30 or so.) She’s also a typical Trumpian in that she reels off the standard “lamestream mass media” etc lines” and she mutes anyone who disagrees with her.

Anyway, I took her on eventually. She said that the Democratic candidates wanted to get rid of the Constitution. To this, I replied Trump flouts the Constitution on a regular basis. “What? Provide examples!” she replies. “Emoluments clause,” I replied. “That’s just one.”

GUYS. SHE HAD NOT HEARD OF THE EMOLUMENTS CLAUSE.

She then just spat something about she doesn’t read mass media lies and that’s why she didn’t know and muted me.

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 26/02/2020 08:00

Sorry for that analogy, I have a very bad cold at the moment and we have a large number of cases of COVID-19 here for such a small country as the one I live in, so it's on my mind!

Lweji · 26/02/2020 08:22

Yesterday I started watching a documentary about Obama to Trump and I think Dems should listen to Obama speeches again. It was all about uniting and healing.
These days it's all very us and them.

The part with the GOP/Tea Party/Fox/Breitbart was chilling. Most or all of you are aware of what happened too, but watching it all summarised, tbh, it's very sad and worrying.
Not sure if the US (and many other countries) will recover and how.
How do you unite a country in thst a substantial part of the population believes in lies and doesn't realise that the Obamacare they are against is the very lower cost health cover they got?

It was quite sad to watch the other day a Caucus voter say that she wouldn't have voted for Pete if she had realised he was gay.
These people would probably rather vote for an adulterer.

Lweji · 26/02/2020 11:09

An informative summary of the debate.

Who should drop out?
Race by a bunch of whites.
Who wrote that bill?
Who supported a Republican candidate against Warner?
Who owns several Democratic members?

Only good stuff.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 26/02/2020 13:37

Oh; there were two women and a gay in that debate. I wouldn't have known if I hadn't known already: the only people mentioned in the BBC report I heard (on World Update this morning) were Sanders, Bloomberg, and as a sort of afterthought Biden. No Klobuchar, no Warren, no Buttigieg, no Steyer. It was shocking.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 26/02/2020 13:41

And CNN listed them like this: "Who was on stage: Joe Biden, Michael Bloomberg, Pete Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, and Tom Steyer."

Alphabetical by surname until all of a sudden it wasn't. What was the reasoning behind that order, do you suppose? It can't have been by who has won most support so far, I don't think.

lionheart · 26/02/2020 16:43

Perfect credentials:

www.politico.com/news/2020/02/24/assange-grenell-intelligence-117244

'Attorneys for Julian Assange, who is fighting a U.S. extradition request on espionage and computer hacking charges, plan to introduce evidence in the WikiLeaks founder’s extradition hearing involving President Donald Trump’s new intel chief Richard Grenell.'

Roussette · 26/02/2020 20:21

Some interesting posts , thank you all.

Stay safe everyone, I have everything crossed as am off to Brazil in about a month, so hoping coronavirus stays away. But thoughts are with all the countries coping with this. So worrying.

Lweji · 26/02/2020 20:25

If you're heading off to Brazil you have a few more viruses to worry about.
And their government too.
Have a safe trip.

(Out of curiosity, where to?)

AcrossthePond55 · 26/02/2020 20:31

"Joe Biden, Michael Bloomberg, Pete Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, and Tom Steyer".

VP, Mayor, Mayor, Senator, Senator, Senator, No elected office?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 26/02/2020 20:33

Ah. Yes, that would make sense. Thank you: I was slightly thrown by what appeared to be bias.

AcrossthePond55 · 26/02/2020 20:36

I heard this morning that Scrotus was supposedly going to 'address the Nation' re the Coronavirus today at 3pm EST.

It's 3.30. I'm waaaiiitinnnggg!!! (Actually, no I'm not)

AcrossthePond55 · 26/02/2020 20:38

Oh, never mind. It's 3.00 PST (my time), so 6pm EST.

Still not waiting. 😆

AcrossthePond55 · 26/02/2020 20:43

It's the only reason for the order that I can figure Asking. But it's just speculation on my part.

Roussette · 26/02/2020 20:50

(Out of curiosity, where to?)

Amazon Basin... Manaus and travelling east! Had all the jabs, even yellow fever at my age!

lionheart · 26/02/2020 20:51

Have a safe trip Roussette.

This is to cheer you on your way. Smile

www.politicususa.com/2020/02/24/massive-crowd-walked-out-in-the-middle-of-trumps-fumbling-speech-in-india.html

Roussette · 26/02/2020 21:00

Thanks lionheart Not going for a month but love the crowd bored senseless with his mispronounciations and streaming out Grin

AcrossthePond55 · 26/02/2020 23:44

Rambling nonsense.

His Coronavirus statement so far: factoid, me me me me, factoid, me me me me, flu, ramble ramble, me me me me......

TheClaws · 27/02/2020 00:45

There were facts in the press conference? Are you sure?

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Lweji · 27/02/2020 01:15

Nice Rousette. Do not forget your insect repellant.

Factoids. Not quite facts? Wink

TheClaws · 27/02/2020 03:10

I would think ‘fact’, in any form, has little place in any description of Trump’s speeches {grin}

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lionheart · 27/02/2020 06:29

It's okay, Pence is in charge now.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-announces-news-conference-coronavirus-cdc-days-mixed/story?id=69228747

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