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Happy Impeachment! Next step is removal. (Trump thread 98)

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TheClaws · 24/12/2019 00:12

In the last thread, Trump was impeached by Congress. Now the question is when the articles will be sent to the Senate for Trial, as - at this stage - there is no guarantee from Mitch McConnell of a fair trial. Trump clings to his belief that his call to Zelensky was “perfect”.

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3732056-Trump-and-the-Giant-Impeachment-Trump-thread-97

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PerkingFaintly · 10/01/2020 17:46

Ewww.

Thank you for that imagery. Not.Envy

PerkingFaintly · 10/01/2020 17:47

(That was to Mockers.)

RhinoskinhaveI · 10/01/2020 17:53

his tiny orange hands
this is the stuff of nightmares, horror film fodder
curing cancer??
I wish he could cure the pox, the pox that is trump
with his poxy tiny hands:(

Roussette · 10/01/2020 18:13

Dear oh dear.

Trump bleating on that he should've won the Nobel Peace Prize and not the PM of Ethiopa.

In all my following of Trump's antics I have never known him broker peace in Ethiopa, despite his assertions..

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-51063149

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 10/01/2020 18:19

How does he figure that one out?

Frankiestein402 · 10/01/2020 19:06

Can anyone explain why the Iranians would fire on a civilian aircraft

~4hrs after the Iranians have launched missiles against US bases I'd expect Iranian defence forces to be on high alert for us retaliation - whether drones or fighters. The 737 was late departing (ie not quite in expected time slot) & was still at relatively low level so decision times would have been short - nervous soldier syndrome basically - as you say motiveless unless black ops - but I always prefer the simple cockup as explanation

Mockers2020Vision · 10/01/2020 19:13

On the plus side, Jared having brought peace to the Middle East is going to be running his re-election campaign.

PerkingFaintly · 10/01/2020 19:19

I've been wondering something along those lines, Frankiestein402.

lionheart · 10/01/2020 21:03

His base seemed to lap it up but I'm sure that behind closed doors at least some of the GOP are having night-sweats.

Jared? Should go swimmingly then. In the bag.

lionheart · 10/01/2020 21:20

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-news-live-iran-war-crisis-impeachment-trial-fox-news-intervew-ingraham-a9277866.html

'A judge in New York has refused a request by Donald Trump’s legal team to have a defamation lawsuit brought against him by the writer E Jean Carroll dismissed, ensuring her allegations of sexual assault are heard while the president seeks re-election.

Mr Trump went after his domestic rivals over the Iran crisis during a wild campaign rally in Ohio on Thursday night, suggesting House speaker Nancy Pelosi would have leaked the US plan to assassinate Qassem Soleimani to the media had she had prior warning.'

lionheart · 10/01/2020 21:27

Another report on that connection between Iran and impeachment.

www.salon.com/2020/01/10/trump-privately-admits-he-killed-soleimani-under-pressure-from-upcoming-impeachment-trial-report/

cozietoesie · 10/01/2020 21:46

Jared.

You can take it to the bank.😃

lionheart · 10/01/2020 22:37

Manu Raju
@mkraju
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'Trump tells Fox that he would consider invoking executive privilege to block John Bolton’s testimony before the Senate “for the sake of the office.”'

TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/01/2020 22:38

Oh how they laughed in Russia.

U.S. Probes If Russia Is Targeting Biden in 2020 Election Meddling
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-10/u-s-probes-if-russia-targeting-biden-in-2020-election-meddling

There’s a big difference in 2020 that’s working to the Kremlin’s advantage. In 2016, Russia had to hack documents, covertly leak them and manufacture a social media operation to damage Clinton. This time around, the narrative about Biden and Ukraine is already well-publicized and being advanced by Trump, his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani and the president’s Republican allies in Congress.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/01/2020 22:43

Bloomberg to fund sizable campaign effort through November even if he loses Democratic nomination
www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/bloomberg-fund-sizable-campaign-effort-through-november-even-if-he-n1113421

Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s massive campaign apparatus and an army of some 500 staffers will march on through the general election in November even if he loses the Democratic nomination, campaign officials tell NBC News, shifting their efforts toward working to elect whomever the party selects to face President Donald Trump.

Bloomberg’s vast tech operation will also be redirected to help the eventual nominee, as Democrats struggle to compete with the vaunted digital operation built by Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale. Hawkfish, a digital company started by Bloomberg that’s carrying out his $100 million online ad campaign, will be retained through Election Day to help defeat Trump, the officials said.

Awaiting the eventual nominee would be a shadow field operation across the country that’s currently unparalleled in size by any of the other candidates in the presidential race. The roughly 500 staff members Bloomberg has committed to paying through November include those in battleground states like Florida, North Carolina, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, as well as in Arizona.

lionheart · 10/01/2020 22:45

This is timely considering his role as point man in all of these hearings.

politicaltribune.org/jim-jordans-hometown-newspaper-called-him-a-legislative-terrorist-in-what-appeared-to-be-a-devastating-takedown-of-the-congressman-2/

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 10/01/2020 23:09

From the Guardian link about Pelosi:

the revelation by the Maine senator Susan Collins, a moderate Republican locked in a tough re-election fight, that she had been working all week with a “fairly small group” of fellow Republican senators to allow for witnesses at the trial.
“We should be completely open to calling witnesses,” Collins was quoted as saying by Bangor Daily News, which first published the report.

Is there any particular reason to believe a word she says this time round either? Seems to me her speciality has been to pretend to do something so that nobody else bothers, and then not do it.

PerkingFaintly · 10/01/2020 23:15

That's my impression of Susan Collins, too, Asking.

TheClaws · 10/01/2020 23:50

Bold. Now, imagine this: Russia, China, Iran and North Korea and a few others join up ... (Actually, I believe they already have.)

Reuters @Reuters 2hr

A Russian navy ship ‘aggressively approached’ a U.S. Navy destroyer in the North Arabian Sea, the U.S. Navy said in a statement @GavinoGaray reports reut.rs/2QFzAFe

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lionheart · 11/01/2020 01:51

I really don't understand what game Collins is playing.

Lweji · 11/01/2020 07:55

Now, imagine this: Russia, China, Iran and North Korea and a few others join up ... (Actually, I believe they already have.)

It's been obvious for at least a couple of years, although China has a separate agenda, IMO. They're conducting a financial operation, while Russia with NK and Iran are more on the military (nuclear) front.

In relation to Iran, I'd say more than Republican Senators, Trump has been egged on by Bibi and the Saudis. But it's better for him to pass on the message that there's an internal reason.

Having said that, Putin may or may no be a genius, but such tensions play to his hands. Not leading to WWII, but to restore his influence and importance in key countries around Russia, as in the old days.
How did the US get intelligence of where Suleimani was?

Lweji · 11/01/2020 09:05

It's official. Iran shot down the plane. Sad

For some reason, I think it must be harder on the families than an accident.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/11/iran-admits-shooting-down-ukrainian-airliner-unintentionally

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