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Mueller time for Trump and his friends - will they all meet in a courtyard surrounded by a big beautiful wall? - Trump thread 92

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Lweji · 23/03/2019 08:10

Someone had to and soon.

Old thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3510947-It-s-a-National-Non-Emergency-Trump-thread-91

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TheClaws · 18/04/2019 00:53

Gotta put on the old razzle-dazzle ...

Adam Schiff @RepAdamSchiff
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Just been informed by DOJ that we’ll receive Mueller’s report only after Barr gives a press conference.

Once again, Barr wants to shape the public’s perception of the report.

This is on top of reports DOJ secretly briefed the White House.

This is not justice. Just PR.

TheClaws · 18/04/2019 00:59

North Korea test-fires a short-range (apparently this is what ‘tactical’ means) tactical missile.

Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un Guides Test-Fire of New-Type Tactical Guided Weapon

Pyongyang, April 18 (KCNA) -- Kim Jong Un, chairman of the Workers' Party of Korea, chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and supreme commander of the Armed Forces of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, supervised and guided a test-fire of a new-type tactical guided weapon conducted by the Academy of Defence Science on Wednesday.

Looking round the new-type tactical guided weapon, Kim Jong Un was told by officials concerned of the Academy of Defence Science about the formation of the weapon system and its operation mode.

Saying that the completion of the development of the weapon system serves as an event of very weighty significance in increasing the combat power of the People's Army, he noted that it is a very good thing that the field of national defence science has waged a dynamic struggle for attaining core research goals set forth by the Party at the 8th Conference of Munitions Industry and thus conducted brisk activities for developing our own style weapon system which embodies four elements.

He mounted an observation post to learn about a plan of the test-fire of the new-type tactical guided weapon and guided the test-fire.

The design indexes of the tactical guided weapon whose advantages are appreciated for the peculiar mode of guiding flight and the load of a powerful warhead were perfectly verified at the test-fire conducted in various modes of firing at different targets.

After watching the power of the new-type tactical guided weapon, he pointed out that our national defence scientists and workers in the field of the munitions industry performed another great work in increasing the country's defence capabilities, saying with pride that he had always been struck with admiration at them in the period of developing strategic weapon and our scientists, technicians and workers are, indeed, great and there is no weapon impossible to make when they are determined to do.

He set the phased and strategic goals for keeping munitions production going on and putting national defence science and technology on cutting edge level and indicated detailed tasks and ways to attain them.

He was accompanied by Kim Phyong Hae, O Su Yong, Jo Yong Won, Ri Pyong Chol, Kim Jong Sik and other senior officials of the Party Central Committee and commanding officers of the Korean People's Army including Kim Su Gil, Ri Yong Gil, No Kwang Chol, Pak Jong Chon and Pak Kwang Ju. -0-

Lweji · 18/04/2019 01:13

I hadn't had the time to look properly at how the Buttigieg guy was, but I'm in love.

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Lweji · 18/04/2019 01:19

Also, not quite the right thread, but Colbert does Brexit.

It seems RR Martin is writing Brexit.

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TheClaws · 18/04/2019 01:21

Congress members (or the press) won’t get the Mueller report ahead of Barr’s press conference - as would be the norm - making it even more Trump-sided than usual. This is how a dictator works.

thehill.com/homenews/house/439423-doj-wont-deliver-mueller-report-to-congress-until-after-barr-press

TheClaws · 18/04/2019 01:28

And this is true. Trump’s read it - the DOJ has read it - and Barr will give a press conference on it to a Congress and press who still haven’t read it. Wrong on all levels.

Neal Katyal @neal_katyal
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Heads up about Barr’s heads up.

Will be on
@maddow
tonight (from the airport!) talking about how improper it is for Trump to have advance notice of the Report from Barr before the American people get to see it. He can’t even bother acting innocent.

Roussette · 18/04/2019 07:42

Pathetic. How ridiculous that there is a press conference on something that no one but the person holding the press conference has seen. I wish they'd all walk out.

I've watched a bit of Buttigieg on Twitter. Eloquent, encompassing of others even Trumpites, speaks 5 languages, gay, intelligent... sigh... how we miss signs of intelligence with the present incumbent.

This is all rather worrying isn't it... even for Europe and Canada... let alone Americans who have trips planned to Cuba

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/17/cuba-trump-new-restrictions-canada-europe

PerkingFaintly · 18/04/2019 08:49

Well Trump Barr has to tell everyone what to think, otherwise we might read the report and think for ourselves.

Dear me, can't have that.

Lweji · 18/04/2019 08:55

Yes, get the message out. Nobody (voters) will read the full report and by the time it's out they're tired of it.
It's been working quite well.

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PerkingFaintly · 18/04/2019 09:01

I think the media shouldn't bite.

Wait for Barr's bowdlerised version of the Mueller Report, then report directly on that.

They can always report on any, ahem, differences between the Report and the Barr's press-conference statements afterwards – that analysis might be interesting.

Hearhere · 18/04/2019 09:46

Whenever I see William Barr I think of toad of toad hall

lionheart · 18/04/2019 09:51

slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/michael-flynn-mueller-report-redactions-william-barr.html

'But on Thursday, when Attorney General William Barr has promised to release a redacted version of Mueller’s report, it seems we are unlikely to find out much about the Flynn episode. In reading between Barr’s redactions, we can learn a lot about what the attorney general might be hiding by remembering what we already know about Flynn.'

lionheart · 18/04/2019 10:52

Sally Q. Yates on Robert Swan Mueller III. Smile

time.com/collection/100-most-influential-people-2019/5567757/robert-mueller-2/

PerkingFaintly · 18/04/2019 11:24

From lionheart's link to the Independent:

[Trump] claimed Mr Barr had done a “fantastic” job in dealing with Mr Mueller’s report and “grabbed it by the horns”.

Yep, that sounds like someone talking about a report that demonstrates their complete innocence... Grin

lionheart · 18/04/2019 11:36

Call for Mueller to testify from Pelosi and Schumer.

Mueller time for Trump and his friends - will they all meet in a courtyard surrounded by a big beautiful wall? - Trump thread 92
PerkingFaintly · 18/04/2019 11:55

Actually, given past Trumpie behaviour (and what's already being trailed), I imagine the first stage of the White House's rebuttal, before POINTS 1-3, will be:

POINT ZERO –
LOOK OVER THERE! Some bad baddy is bad to investigate me! How very dare, etc. Don't look at me, mob, enemy's over there!

They've probably already written the chants and memes.

PerkingFaintly · 18/04/2019 12:08

(I could be proved wrong, of course. That's just me speculating. There might be nothing like that in Barr's press conference or after.)

Hearhere · 18/04/2019 12:08

Go Nancy and Chuck!
it's very exciting isn't it 😁

PerkingFaintly · 18/04/2019 12:23

Yeah, pretty sure that's the point.

All this trailing and dangling by the Barr/White House team gets people fired up with anticipation.

Then they deliver the press conference, which I'm guessing will announce an agenda (just my guess, I could be wrong).

Set the story, fill the headlines and pack everyone off for the holiday weekend.

By the time the actual redacted report is slid out, there will be little time to read, ever mind analyse it, before the holidays.

Roussette · 18/04/2019 12:38

North Korea: If US wants to talk, put someone 'more mature' than Pompeo in charge.

Nothing's working then despite the Trump/Kim love affair.

edition.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/north-korea-us-pompeo-intl/index.html

Roussette · 18/04/2019 14:39

@BBCJonSopel
Following Following @BBCJonSopel

What a farcical exercise this will be. The #MuellerReport, the most consequential report in decades, and the Attorney General #BillBarr will answer our questions on a report we won’t have seen. So how will we know what to ask? We won’t. Doesn’t smack of confidence does it?

lionheart · 18/04/2019 14:55

Renato Mariotti

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@renato_mariotti
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'Barr just said that he is going to keep "grand jury information" from Congressional leadership. He cannot keep the results of a criminal investigation of the president from the House of Representatives, period.'

1m1 minute ago

'Just to be clear, that means that Barr intends to keep evidence obtained by grand jury subpoena, such as documents and grand jury testimony, from Congress.

The Executive Branch investigated potential crimes by the president. The House has impeachment power. They get the results.'

lionheart · 18/04/2019 14:57

Barr: "Earlier this week, the President’s personal counsel requested and was given the opportunity to read a final version of the redacted report before it was publicly released."

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