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Mueller time for Trump and his friends - will they all meet in a courtyard surrounded by a big beautiful wall? - Trump thread 92

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Lweji · 23/03/2019 08:10

Someone had to and soon.

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PerkingFaintly · 23/03/2019 20:13

Indeed, Missmarplesknitting.

I reckon his staff have dropped his phone down the loo, or distracted him with a bigly chocolate cake in the middle of a golf course or something.

lionheart · 23/03/2019 21:24

More Brew and maybe some Gin.

cozietoesie · 23/03/2019 21:30

Definitely some Gin

lionheart · 23/03/2019 21:40

Reinforcements then.

Gin Gin Gin

Lweji · 24/03/2019 00:09

Oooh. I got a new bottle of my favourite drink the other weekend. Let's see what lasts longer. I don't drink that much, so I hope it outlasts Trump's Presidency.

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TheClaws · 24/03/2019 05:42

I’m not concerned. I’ve seen plenty of “Success! When are the Dims going to apologise for all they’ve put our wonderful Prez and his family through yada yada yada” but I do believe, given they haven’t read the report, they are claiming victory very early. Given Trump’s track record and the fact several of his top-level staff have been convicted already, I’m fairly confident Trump won’t emerge squeaky clean. It just isn’t possible. The guy is a hustler - just a wealthy, well-known one.

lionheart · 24/03/2019 07:31

People are rightly Hmm at this little flourish:

CNN

Verified account

@CNN

'On the evening Robert Mueller submitted his report to the Justice Department, President Trump was on the tiled patio of Mar-a-Lago, bathed in golden light, with his wife and son Barron, who had reached teenagerhood two days earlier.' cnn.it/2FvEDTi

TheNorthWestPawsage · 24/03/2019 08:53

Thread:
Regarding Mueller, there are of course a lot of possibilities, but here are a few predictions to occupy the mind while we wait. 1/7
twitter.com/davidkris/status/1109628125472686080?s=21

yolofish · 24/03/2019 13:13

Sorry this sounds so thick: those saying 'no case to answer' are saying it because Mueller's evidence hasnt yet been read? The Sun Times today seemed to suggest it was all done and dusted, move along now, nothing to see here.

PerkingFaintly · 24/03/2019 14:00

Is that the Sunday Times, owned by Rupert Murdoch?

Owner of Fox News?

Murdoch who (allegedly) told a reporter to spike her story on Trump's payoffs to Stormy Daniels before the election, "Good reporting Kiddo, but Rupert Murdoch wants Donald Trump to win. So set it aside."

twitter.com/janemayernyer/status/1102542603378143232?lang=en

Righto.

yolofish · 24/03/2019 14:06

fairy nuff perking just made me a bit anxious!

PerkingFaintly · 24/03/2019 14:09

lionheart's link in the last thread was good.

Four Principles for Reading the Mueller Report
www.lawfareblog.com/four-principles-reading-mueller-report

if Mueller declines prosecution [...], onlookers should presume that those decisions also reflect reasonable prosecutorial judgments.

Declinations in a politically sensitive matter of this type may happen for a variety of reasons. The facts may not be adequate to support a given prosecution. Particularly with respect to the president, there are major legal impediments to prosecution—both with respect to the application of specific statutes to the exercise of Article II powers and with respect to the threshold question of whether the president is amenable to indictment while he remains in office at all.
[...]
. the report only covers what it covers. There may be many lines of inquiry the public feels are relevant to L’Affaire Russe, or to ethical and legal questions about the president and his family more generally, that are not within the scope of the Mueller report.
[...]
if Mueller finds a series of facts and concludes that those facts either do not amount to a prosecutable case or that some law bars his bringing that case, people are free to judge those facts. Fact patterns that Mueller may choose not to prosecute, or may be barred from prosecuting, may nonetheless warrant the opprobrium of all decent people. They may warrant impeachment and removal from office—the standards for impeachment being quite different from the standards of the criminal law. They may warrant civil liability.

lionheart · 24/03/2019 15:55

BBC did the same thing. Their man in Washington did not mention the ongoing investigations and state prosecution or the fact that no-one really knows what is in the report. I got a bit shouty. Blush

cozietoesie · 24/03/2019 16:49

You thought you could relax, eh?

.Ongoing

PerkingFaintly · 24/03/2019 17:03

Grin You're spoiling me, cozie.

Ta v much!

Hearhere · 24/03/2019 17:08

Hello :)
longtime lurker here, would like to participate as you wait for more info on the Meuller and anticipate the SDNY

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