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'Everybody has a heart. Except some people,' Trump thread 90.

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lionheart · 19/01/2019 01:08

From Bette Davis, who was too canny to name names. Smile

Here is the old thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3458456-Shutdowns-military-pullouts-and-resignations-it-s-Christmas-and-Trump-thread-89?watched=1&msgid=84240445#84240445

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PerkingFaintly · 21/01/2019 17:09

Salisbury poisoning: EU sanctions Russian suspects
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46949162

Four people have been sanctioned - including the head of the GRU, deputy head, and two agents who are believed to have carried out the attack.
[...]
The sanctions put a ban on travel to the EU and freezes any assets there.

They also prevent any person or company in the EU from providing any financial support to those affected.

This is the first time the EU has used its new powers to sanction those connected to chemical weapons manufacture and use, which it created in October last year.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/01/2019 17:37

Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
Big: A fake LinkedIn profile linking poisoned double agent Sergei Skripal to Christopher Steele—which prompted conspiracy theories about MI6’s role in the Novichok attack—was allegedly created by the GRU more than a year before Skripal was poisoned.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/20/kremlin-accused-laying-false-trail-linking-sergei-skripal-ex/

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/01/2019 17:37

The Pence thing made me think

Does he realise that he has probably managed to offend everyone by likening Trump to Martin Luther King?

MLK supporters will regard comparing Trump to him as denigration.

Trump supporters will regard comparing him to MLK as a denigration.

PerkingFaintly · 21/01/2019 17:57

Well. How interesting is THAT?!

I can't read the whole of that Telegraph story about LinkedIn and Sergei Skripal. I wonder if there'll be more depth and corroboration of it anon?

Lweji · 21/01/2019 18:01

Thanks for that Covington video thread.
Very informative.
It looks like typical too much testosterone running.
In addition to some pretty dire school ethos.

merrymouse · 21/01/2019 18:06

I'm sure we'd have been dragged along to a Pro-Life (or anti-abortion) demo if they'd had them in London at the time.

But fast forward to 2019 - things are getting fraught in Pariliment square with all kinds of people demonstrating - would they have let you loose in yellow high vis jackets without supervision?

SanFranBear · 21/01/2019 18:46

I came on to say I was now unsure of how I felt about those students... I can't get passed that smile and if that student believes that was a calming expression which would diffuse the situation, I think he needs to work on it more than a little.

But I'm just unsure now. I'll have a read of that long dissection of the video now and see. I admit I jumped on that boy but that smile! Urgh Sad

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/01/2019 20:50

Look at it this way: you are sixteen or seventeen, and an elderly man is walking in your direction. Do you
a) step out of his way
b) stand in his way and look at him with an expression which he (being ex-forces) probably recognises instantly as "dumb insolence"
c) step into his way and as b

If you answer anything but a, you are a mannerless young oik.

lionheart · 21/01/2019 21:08

I've seen the recent video of those boys mocking the drummer just before the stand-off. And the shot of the priest standing in the background. And the photos from 2015 of the basketball team showing the WP signs. And from the same period, the crowd of boys wearing blackface ...

I guess a little light will be shone on all of those things.

And this beauty.

'Everybody has a heart. Except some people,' Trump thread 90.
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cozietoesie · 21/01/2019 22:41

Ta, Across. Entendu.Smile

TheClaws · 21/01/2019 23:59

Rafael Shimunov 🔥
Rafael Shimunov 🔥
@rafaelshimunov
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7h
Sr Trump official admitting aim of shutdown is to break government backs up
@sarahkendzior
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@andreachalupa
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@gaslitnation
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Scary part?

If true, it bolster's their theory that Trump is destroying this country to sell it for parts.

TheClaws · 22/01/2019 00:06

That boy’s look I’ve seen many times before. I’m an adult. I’ve seen both videos and read accounts from both sides. The kid was not trying to “diffuse” (sic) the situation. Unfortunately, I know what he is.

AcrossthePond55 · 22/01/2019 01:11

Bien, cozie!

7Days · 22/01/2019 01:31

Sorry lionheart I'm not getting the significance of that photo - it's late.

TheClaws · 22/01/2019 05:34

Trump has weighed in on the Covington students. He, of course, supports them.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Looking like Nick Sandman & Covington Catholic students were treated unfairly with early judgements proving out to be false - smeared by media. Not good, but making big comeback! “New footage shows that media was wrong about teen’s encounter with Native American”
@TuckerCarlson

lionheart · 22/01/2019 05:52

It's the white power sign, *7Days^.

More dissections:

theconcourse.deadspin.com/dont-doubt-what-you-saw-with-your-own-eyes-1831931203

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lionheart · 22/01/2019 06:27

7Days. Smile

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Roussette · 22/01/2019 08:18

What hope is there if the President supports them? He can't comment on MLK day about that great man but can comment on this?

After watching various footage, various commentaries and dissection of what happened, the School have a lot to answer for. After all... this vile picture was taken just over a year ago, it has everything, white power sign, black faces, jeering of an opposing team black sports player. Disgusting.

'Everybody has a heart. Except some people,' Trump thread 90.
lionheart · 22/01/2019 09:04

I've just been looking at some of the other clips, including the kid shouting, 'It's not rape if you enjoy it!'

The school has a problem.

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7Days · 22/01/2019 09:35

Ah, thank you lionheart

Roussette · 22/01/2019 09:54

And just in case there was any doubt about exactly who they are...

'Everybody has a heart. Except some people,' Trump thread 90.
Lweji · 22/01/2019 11:37

Accident or wishful thinking?

Fox pays homage to Ruth in a way that suggests she died/dies in 2019?

read.bi/2R2q2Bm

MerdedeBrexit · 22/01/2019 12:43

Gosh, I just thought that gesture was same as a thumbs up, didn't realise it could also be used as a White Power sign. Learn something new every day Sad
The more I read about it, the more I feel that the boys were using learned behaviour and come from families who chose the school because its morals and attitudes were the same as their own, promoting racism, white supremacy, homophobia, misogyny, sexism, xenophobia, chauvinism - all of which should be abhorrent to the Catholic church but unfortunately isn't in many places. It seems their Diocesan Bishop is cut from the same cloth, if I read it correctly.
This is one of the Twitter threads I was thinking of: twitter.com/gipperakh/status/1087351719544213507

JustSomeChick
@Just_SomeChick
Jan 19

JustSomeChick Retweeted Simar

My brother graduated from this all boys catholic school in Northern KY. He was harassed and ridiculed to literally within an inch of his life. I see nothings changed. Shame on you @CovCathColonels

There is at least one other Twitter thread which I can't find at the moment, where a man talks about having been bullied for being gay, when he attended the school.

John Pavlovitz
‏Verified account @johnpavlovitz
16h16 hours ago

John Pavlovitz (Retweeted Waleed Shahid's video link,
Waleed Shahid
‏Verified account @_waleedshahid

The earlier footage of Native American veteran Nathan Phillips being mocked by Trump supporters is so much worse.)

Can we stop pretending the #CovingtonCatholic students are some isolated, misunderstood group of well-meaning white kids?

This is Trump's America, his base, his trickle-down ignorance and hatred.

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