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But "When the president does it, that means it is not illegal": Trump thread LXXXVIII

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lionheart · 03/12/2018 22:47

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But "When the president does it, that means it is not illegal": Trump thread LXXXVIII
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AcrossthePond55 · 21/12/2018 13:51

So, the House passed the CR with the 'belief' that the Repug controlled Senate will kill it. Seems to me we've been there before with legislation and it ended up passing with Pence breaking a tie vote. All bullshit, of course, the House knew it'd pass the Senate. And I believe the same on the CR.

For someone who asked, here's a VERY simple explanation of the budget process:

1-POTUS submits his budget plan to Congress

2-The two Chambers of Congress separately debate that budget, fiddles with it or comes up with their own budget.

3-Each Chamber looks at the other's budget and tries to reconcile them to come up with a mutually agreed-upon budget. Note: Each 'piece' of the budget can be approved individually and submitted separately to POTUS to sign off on. This is why we have 75% of the budget approved already.

4-Mutually agreed-upon budget goes to the POTUS to sign off on. If he does, the budget is 'official'. If he vetoes it, Congress can override with a 2/3 majority. Otherwise we start all over again.

lionheart · 21/12/2018 14:24

Why would anyone want the DoJ to be shut down? Oh wait ...

www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/12/mueller-appears-close-indicting-stone-alleged-lies/578794/

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/12/2018 15:45

Government shutdown? Sure. You were promised a wall AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET A WALL. This wall isn't going to build itself. Or pay for itself - the Mexicans will do that! Or maybe the money saved from the renegotiated deal will pay for it...that's basically the same right?

OR

www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

$11,759,567 of $1.0B goal
Raised by 193,085 people in 4 days

So, not paid for Mexico but never mind, wall will be built! Only $988240433 to go!

Also:

Richie Nakano
‏*@linecook*
I don’t think that these people realize that this isn’t Kickstarter. Their money is gone. It doesn’t come back if the project doesn’t fund. Also they tax liability for whoever started this project LMAOOOOOOOO

Also also!

Founder of viral fundraiser for Trump's border wall has questionable news past
Brian Kolfage told NBC News he didn’t want to mention his previous projects because he “didn’t want it to be a distraction.”

www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/founder-viral-fundraiser-trump-s-border-wall-has-fake-news-n950636

BUILD THAT WALL! BUILD THAT WALL!

cozietoesie · 21/12/2018 16:06
Sad

Mattis quits

cozietoesie · 21/12/2018 16:14

.... If you’re not nervous yet, you’re not paying attention.....

AcrossthePond55 · 21/12/2018 16:17

Senate convenes in little under 45 minutes according to the Senate.gov website.

Hopefully they'll take the vote soon. If it's a 'done deal NO' there's no reason to delay. But IMHO, if we see lots of jabber-jawing and little groups caucusing with someone (McConnell and/or Schumer) moving from group to group I think we're in trouble.

AcrossthePond55 · 21/12/2018 16:23

Boy, do I remember this from work! We'd be trying to keep our minds on task with mgmt monitoring emails from OPM and trying to find a TV station to monitor (no cable, just broadcast). Someone would have a spouse at home watching CSpan.

I remember one year it was an immediate shut down (as opposed to a midnight deadline). They got 'the word' and told us all to shut down our computers and go home. We had some very unhappy clients that day!

PerkingFaintly · 21/12/2018 16:33

From cozie's Daily Beast article:

Fear Mounts as Mattis Quits Pentagon
www.thedailybeast.com/fear-mounts-as-mattis-quits-pentagon

Sometime during the “fire and fury” summer of 2017, when President Trump and Kim Jong Un were rapidly exchanging nuclear-backed threats, Trump saw something on Fox News that prompted him to issue a potentially ominous order to the military.

“It was incredibly wrongheaded, and Mattis pulled him back,” said Antony Blinken, a deputy secretary of state under the Obama administration with a reputation for sobriety.

Blinken would not elaborate. But he shared the anecdote to underscore the deep sense of alarm, uncertainty, and even fear in U.S. and allied national-security circles over the departure of Defense Secretary James Mattis.
[...]
“He was really the only person left opposing outright war for regime change in Iran. He also held back bigger war in Syria and probably stopped Trump from bombing North Korea in 2017. He doesn’t fit in a neat box, but we are worse off without him,” said a Republican close to the Trump White House.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/12/2018 16:40

Interesting thread:

Wendy Siegelman
@WendySiegelman
Mattis is out and Blackwater is back - Blackwater, founded by Erik Prince, rebranded as Constellis & bought by Apollo, took out a full page ad in the Jan/Feb 2019 issue of Recoil magazine with the Blackwater logo and message: We are coming. by
@TaraCopp

mobile.twitter.com/WendySiegelman/status/1076133513332699137

PerkingFaintly · 21/12/2018 16:43

It's worth remembering that 45 is NOT anti-interventionist. Any more than Steve Bannon is anti-globalism.

Those are just pre-existing labels they grab 'cos they think they might sell.

45 is more than happy to send special forces into doomed missions in Yemen and drop very big bombs on Afghanistan, never mind willy wag at Kim Jong-un, pretty much for the fun of it.

cozietoesie · 21/12/2018 16:45

.... my skin crawled off for drinks months ago ....

cozietoesie · 21/12/2018 16:48

Sorry. Quote from the thread linked to by Pain.

PerkingFaintly · 21/12/2018 16:51

Grin I didn't like to ask...

cozietoesie · 21/12/2018 16:55
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Roussette · 21/12/2018 17:39

WTAF.

No, it's not a parody account. There's nothing better than a wheel you know

Donald J. Trump
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The Democrats are trying to belittle the concept of a Wall, calling it old fashioned. The fact is there is nothing else’s that will work, and that has been true for thousands of years. It’s like the wheel, there is nothing better. I know tech better than anyone, & technology.....

cozietoesie · 21/12/2018 18:25

Don't hitch your ride to the market.......

Market News

cozietoesie · 21/12/2018 18:28

A CNN piece.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/12/2018 18:38

Just saw the news about RBG - could this year get any worse? Sad

cozietoesie · 21/12/2018 18:46

Afraid so.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/12/2018 18:52

Yes. Time to revisit to those ads for bunkers for sale I fear.

MerdedeBrexit · 21/12/2018 19:12

GOP victory lap round Pelosi after wall bill passage
So now what? I am steaming with rage. The lying bastard shitty cockwombling whoreson zed has got away with it again.

MerdedeBrexit · 21/12/2018 19:14

And now Ruth Bader Ginsberg. Sad
And Brexit no deal is going to happen.
The lunatics are in charge of the asylum and no-one is putting them in strait-jackets.