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To be angry and feel the Scottish Gov’s Twitter header is an attack on women?

688 replies

Badmoonsarising · 27/11/2018 16:21

i’d like them to clarify exactly what their definition of “transphobic” is because it seems to have become a slur these days often aimed at anyone but mostly women who are critical of or question in any way the recent upsurge of identity politics. I just feel they’re doing a knee jerk, ignorant, unnecessary huge fuck you to women.

To be angry and feel the Scottish Gov’s Twitter header is an attack on women?
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Datun · 05/12/2018 21:23

So body search?

Datun · 05/12/2018 21:29

Perhaps what you don't understand verbeena, is that, given stonewall's definition, there are very many transwomen who will actively target anything that is women only. Like Hampstead Heath ponds, online bra services for adolescents, lesbian restaurants, Vancouver rape refuges, beauticians offering Brazilians, etc, etc.

See the recently convicted male police officer who only took up the career of policing, in order to access victims.

See Lilly Maddigan, erstwhile Labour Party women's officer, who bitterly complained that they were patted down by a man, not a woman.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 21:33

datunPerhaps what you don't understand verbeena

I understand perfectly well, do you realise how utterly patronising you are?
datunvery many transwomen*

Not the whole lot then, is it?Although you're hellbent on they all bad and need to be stopped as they trying to take us over.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 05/12/2018 21:37

VerbeenaBeeks, you feel other posters are patronising you. You perhaps don't register that you come across as very illogical and muddle headed. You really don't make a lot of sense.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 21:39

Ok Verbeena

Imagine I am stopped at an airport tomorrow where a "woman" of the male sex wants to perform an intimate body search.

On what grounds can I refuse him doing it?

How do I request someone of the same sex?

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 21:39

you feel other posters are patronising you

perhaps what you don't understand verbeena

well done, you're getting it now.

don't do it again.

Just a few examples. It's fucking ridiculous.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 21:39

Ok Verbeena

Imagine I am stopped at an airport tomorrow where a "woman" of the male sex wants to perform an intimate body search.

On what grounds can I refuse him doing it?

How do I request someone of the same sex?

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 21:40

Ok Verbeena

Imagine I am stopped at an airport tomorrow where a "woman" of the male sex wants to perform an intimate body search.

On what grounds can I refuse him doing it?

How do I request someone of the same sex?

How do we refuse when a male can scream bigot and transphobe and claim we have commited a hate crime by refusing to strip for him?

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 21:40

Ok Verbeena

Imagine I am stopped at an airport tomorrow where a "woman" of the male sex wants to perform an intimate body search.

On what grounds can I refuse him doing it?

How do I request someone of the same sex?

How do we refuse when a male can scream bigot and transphobe and claim we have commited a hate crime by refusing to strip for him?

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 21:41

prawn You perhaps don't register that you come across as very illogical and muddle headed

cos strayed again from all biology innit? Can't see owt else.
Fucking listen to yourselves.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 21:43

You can keep Ok Verbeena as much as you like, there is no fucking POINT as you do not want to listen to a single thing if it doesn't fit your views.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 21:43

Argh sorry for the triple posts everyone, my phone is an knob.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 22:05

Verbeena your view is that women going for an intimate check up should not be allowed to request a female nurse or doctor.

They need to keep making new appointments with new doctors in the hope a female one turns up before its too late.

Of course your views are not taken seriously.

You are willing to put womens health at risk rather than acknowledge women are not male.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 22:06

datun See Lilly Maddigan, erstwhile Labour Party women's officer, who bitterly complained that they were patted down by a man, not a woman.

Lily Madigan isn't a they Confused

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 22:09

You are willing to put womens health at risk

Biscuit

cos there's literally nothing else but a biscuit, you will not, cannot listen to anything else.

Datun · 05/12/2018 22:30

Lily Madigan isn't a they

How does a woman protect herself from being forced to pat down a woman with a penis hell bent on exploiting the situation?

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 22:36

These questions will never be answered, because the only answer is that women should stfu and do what men say.

It was only in the 90s rape in marriage became illegal. Men can not stand women being able to say no to them.

This is just yet another way of removing our right to say no.

(NAMALT, obviously)

Datun · 05/12/2018 22:38

Oh I'm not expecting any answers. None of my questions have been answered. I'm just getting on with exposing the ideology.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 22:46

Lmao, REPEATEDLY ANSWERED but they are not the ones you want to hear.
sticky fingers in ears round and round la la la not listening have a go at DEFINE again, please properly this time.............. listening, I am listening honest.

Get suckered in again round it goes again.
If people are getting sick of that, blame the lolzing and the patronising posts - this is the level of discussion it always comes down to as you don't WANT to listen to anyone else.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 22:48

Lily Madigan isn't a they

datun How does a woman protect herself from being forced to pat down a woman with a penis hell bent on exploiting the situation

How has that got ANYTHING to do with the bit of the quote you attached that to of mine?
Are you missing what I actually said on purpose?

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 22:54

Of course telling women with cancer if they want a female doctor theyll just have to keep rebooking appointments and hoping isnt the answer they want to hear.

I had cancer.
It took eight months for the first appointment.

Women will die under your stupid "sex is transphobic" idea.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 22:55

K'in ell. Just.... I can't even.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 22:55

sorry hypolyta cross posted with you, my last post wasn't to you.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 22:56

You cant even... answer in a logical fashion that adress the points made?

We noticed.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 22:56

I have NEVER said sex is transphobic. Read the goddamn thread.