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To be angry and feel the Scottish Gov’s Twitter header is an attack on women?

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Badmoonsarising · 27/11/2018 16:21

i’d like them to clarify exactly what their definition of “transphobic” is because it seems to have become a slur these days often aimed at anyone but mostly women who are critical of or question in any way the recent upsurge of identity politics. I just feel they’re doing a knee jerk, ignorant, unnecessary huge fuck you to women.

To be angry and feel the Scottish Gov’s Twitter header is an attack on women?
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VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 19:20

hypolyta I think people are just intrested on expanding the views to fully understand them

Ha, 'cos that always goes down well. You get a lolz or a virtual there there dear try again

Ereshkigal · 05/12/2018 19:21

We are all free to pursue our own faith beliefs, as I said. However bizarre and unlikely. If you said you had been abducted by aliens I would respect that was your belief.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 19:24

Verbeena you are the only person on this thread possibly on mumsnet to use the word "lolz".

While I love the idea of a cross (is an inverted one going too far?) Id like to hear your suggestion to my question.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 05/12/2018 19:25

But you'll get head patted and told you're wrong and try again if you don't.

I'm not patting Eresh's head.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 19:27

hypolyta Verbeena you are the only person on this thread possibly on mumsnet to use the word "lolz"

is this like when didn't see that it was a poster of a series?
READ THE THREAD.
I even replied lolz yourself to someone going lolz at the beginning.
IT IS THERE, is it in a parallel universe or something?

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 19:31

Empress I'm not patting Eresh's head

Did I say you were? WTAF are you talking about? You know damn well I wasn't referring to you all patronising each other, it is people with a different viewpoint that's saved for.
Others might think pointless engaging and leave you all to catastrophise etc and pile on people who think differently, I will pick people up on fucking bullying behaviour towards people different including my viewpoint to yours - as it wasn't acceptable at school and it isn't as an adult either.
In fact it's even sadder as an adult to do it really.
Again, some.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 19:32

If that is correct, I apologise.

You are the only poster I have seen using that phrase but as you said I missed the post explaining this was a series so I may have missed others.

So back to my question.

If we accept transwomen are women, what name do we put on the doors of toilets and prisons and refuges so people of my sex do not have to share with people of the opposite sex?

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 19:35

I think whoever it was at the beginning of the thread who said why is transwomen seen as being a threat to all womenkind has had their question well and truly answered now Grin

Go back to your question all you like, it is literally pointless expanding or discussing anything as the lolling bollocks starts up again,

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 19:41

Its a threat becasue once we accept men can be women, we have NO way of having spaces away from males.

Cant request a female to do a smear, a body search, to be our cell mate in prison.

We would not be allowed a word to define our biology as different to males.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 19:41

Its a threat becasue once we accept men can be women, we have NO way of having spaces away from males.

Cant request a female to do a smear, a body search, to be our cell mate in prison.

We would not be allowed a word to define our biology as different to males.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 19:53

Course you can ask for a different doctor to see to you, people do it all the time.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 19:56

Keep thinking you're not allowed to have a different doctor/nurse though if it makes you feel better.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 20:10

Transwomen want to be called women and female.

So what word can I use to decribe a doctor of the same sex as me?

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 20:10

Transwomen want to be called women and female.

So what word can I use to decribe a doctor of the same sex as me?

Datun · 05/12/2018 20:44

Transwomen want to be called women and female.

So what word can I use to decribe a doctor of the same sex as me?

Which wouldn't to be considered transphobic. And not get the bloody woman who was trying to find out whether her cervix was fucking her over, the label of bigot.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 20:49

Just ask for a different doctor, people are still allowed to.
Nobody needs to even go into reasons, you're allowed to request a different doctor without having to justify yourself as to why you want to change.
You just ask for another one.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 20:54

It took 8months of begging for a smear when I had cervical cancer symptoms.

The sooner its caught, the better the survival rate.

Why the FUCK are women supposed to put their lives at risk making endless appointments until one happens to be with a woman?

How much doctors time will this waste?

Im also bemused by the fact you think someone can refuse a body search.

Refuse a prison cell.

You havent thought this through, have you?

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 20:58

That is an actual question, by the way.

I had symptoms for that long before getting a smear.

Why would a womans need for a female doctor, to treat her cancer, not be as important as a males need to pretend to be the same sex as her?

Datun · 05/12/2018 21:11

Hyppolyta

You won't get answer that doesn't centre men over women. Even when it's about gynaecological cancer.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 21:11

It's always been the case that if you don't want to have a doctor, for any reason, you can ask for another one.
If you don't want to ask for another one, as too much waiting, well, that's not really transwomen's fault, is it?
As you CAN ask for another one.

Datun · 05/12/2018 21:14

You won't get answer that doesn't centre men over women

Ever.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 21:15

Yes, we can request another one.

But we dont want two doctors. We want one doctor, the same sex as us.

How do we request that without being transphobic?

As Datun said, you are centering males in a convo about cervical cancer.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 21:18

It also isnt a case of not wanting to wait.

Its that women die while waiting.

So what about the bodysearches? The prison cells? The toilets?

How do you suggest we keep those sex segregated in your brave new world?

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 21:21

Im also bemused by the fact you think someone can refuse a body search

Did I say that? Nope, I didn't did I.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 21:22

oops forgot the name on the beginning bolded

should read hyppolyta Im also bemused by the fact you think someone can refuse a body search