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To be angry and feel the Scottish Gov’s Twitter header is an attack on women?

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Badmoonsarising · 27/11/2018 16:21

i’d like them to clarify exactly what their definition of “transphobic” is because it seems to have become a slur these days often aimed at anyone but mostly women who are critical of or question in any way the recent upsurge of identity politics. I just feel they’re doing a knee jerk, ignorant, unnecessary huge fuck you to women.

To be angry and feel the Scottish Gov’s Twitter header is an attack on women?
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Datun · 05/12/2018 18:28

Well done. I'm glad you finally understand.

Phew.

Datun · 05/12/2018 18:29

Finally. Your posts are incomprehensible, when you don't bold something that someone else has said. It looks like you are saying it! And having a bunfight with yourself

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 18:29

Don't do it again

yes miss Sad

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 05/12/2018 18:31

So what you're saying, Verbeena, is that you don't want self-ID because you recognise that that would allow a lot of pisstaking.

But since you were too young to articulate it you've had a sense of being female. So you believe that some males have a similar sense which tells them that they're female, hence being transwomen, and that they should be able to go through a process which will allow them to become legally female. Is that right?

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 18:32

datun Finally. Your posts are incomprehensible, when you don't bold something that someone else has said. It looks like you are saying it! And having a bunfight with yourself

You have LITERALLY just said that word for word upthread about 10 minutes ago.
Are you on loop?

Datun · 05/12/2018 18:33

Ooh, my comment posted twice. It's that good!

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 18:42

datun Well done. I'm glad you finally understand

'Cos I bended to you,innit. But upthread it was a "lolz" as it never happens.
Oh but see it just did.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 05/12/2018 18:49

Ooh, my comment posted twice. It's that good!

You Mumsnet royalty, you Grin

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 18:51

You and ilk not happy until everyone thinks the same.
Your way or no way.
Trying to recruit people to think the same, tell them they're wrong, patronise them like the silly little girls they are if they disagree or have a different opinion to the other women, whip everyone up into hysteria about transwomen out to take over......

you'll never see what you're doing as I said it is utterly, utterly pointless as you cannot and will not see it.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 18:51

Verbeena you didnt bend to Datun, you accepted reality.

Woman and man are words used to desribe people using their sex.

They just describe sex. Thats it. Thats why you cant do woman, its not an action or process.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 18:51

Verbeena you didnt bend to Datun, you accepted reality.

Woman and man are words used to desribe people using their sex.

They just describe sex. Thats it. Thats why you cant do woman, its not an action or process.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 18:54

hyppolyta Verbeena you didnt bend to Datun, you accepted reality

Potatoes, patatahs - bend to the right way of thinking, don't accept anything else but what we are saying, you're right we're not

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 05/12/2018 18:56

Women are only biology

There's no 'only' about it.

Women are anything we want to be. We have an infinite number of appearances, personalities, talents, interests etc. The only thing we all share is biology.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 18:57

Then you wonder why people don't engage?
Fucking patronising little bullies some of you, no wonder you're usually left in your little echo chamber of FWR.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 19:04

Women are anything we want to be. We have an infinite number of appearances, personalities, talents, interests etc. The only thing we all share is biology.

That's a true statement for people not accepting transwomen as ever being a woman, yes.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 05/12/2018 19:07

That's a true statement for people not accepting transwomen as ever being a woman, yes.

Ok. And was my post upthread an accurate summary of your views? I just want to make sure I'm clear what we're arguing about.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 19:08

, you're right we're not

we're right you're not that should have read

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 19:09

Verbeena no one, including you, thinks people can change sex.

No amount of name calling will change that.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 19:09

I've said my views, what part of I don't have to agree or say it all over and over and over and over again are you not getting Confused

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 19:16

Hypolyta No amount of name calling will change that

If somebody is being the very definition of putting others down and seriously patronising, they need to fucking own the names as that is what some is.
I said some, not all of you.

Ereshkigal · 05/12/2018 19:16

Of course you don't have to agree. We are all free to have whatever subjective faith based positions we wish.

Hyppolyta · 05/12/2018 19:16

I think people are just intrested on expanding the views to fully understand them.

I know for me personally I am intruiged what you think I would be if woman was changed to an identity.

What name would be put on the toilet door for people of my sex who dont want to share spaces with people of the oposite sex?

Ereshkigal · 05/12/2018 19:18

Alex Sharpe would probably suggest a cross, for the bubonic plague.

VerbeenaBeeks · 05/12/2018 19:18

erish Of course you don't have to agree

But you'll get head patted and told you're wrong and try again if you don't.

Ereshkigal · 05/12/2018 19:19

No head pats from me.