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Kim Woodburn continued...

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obviouslyperfect · 01/09/2018 22:40

New thread and still wondering why there has been no apology or acknowledgement of the incident in Loose Women last week.

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youarenotkiddingme · 08/09/2018 14:12

It was the full clip I watched I'm sure it was. KW walks in and then goes off on a rant. LR says CN admitted to being 2 faced in the Clio and KW lays into her and when she says she is just pointing out the chip she starts like a dog with a bone.

I didn't know CN was meant to talk first. That does have an effect.

But I'm still unsure why the sympathy all lies with KW who's also a known bully?

I think the 3 of them were as vile as each other and my sympathies don't extend to any of them.

beingthere · 08/09/2018 14:19

But I'm still unsure why the sympathy all lies with KW who's also a known bully?

I didn’t know KW was a “known bully”. I had never heard of her. If you don’t watch that sort of tv and only get to see the news, you have no preconceived ideas. That was CN’s big mistake. She thought people would write Kim off from the start. Loads and loads didn’t and her arrogance cost her. People who didn’t like CN in the first place seized the chance also.

Regardless, you’re only as good as your last performance and CN failed.

Everyoneiswingingit · 08/09/2018 14:33

But I'm still unsure why the sympathy all lies with KW who's also a known bully?

For me it's because CN was a host and KW was the invited guest.
It's also because it was 4 against 1.

obviouslyperfect · 08/09/2018 14:45

But I'm still unsure why the sympathy all lies with KW who's also a known bully?

I watched the clip when the story hit the news, at that time the entire clip was up. ITV have pulled it for a reason (hint: it makes them and one of their shows look bad).

I was puzzled why JSP said at least twice that Coleen had something to say but she just sat there. The studio notes/format/whatever had been briefed just fell to pieces then.

Silly Coleen. What did she expect to happen?

I think it was planned like a 14 year old mean girl would plan something, malice aforethought! She was never going to say anything even on live TV.

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obviouslyperfect · 08/09/2018 14:51

People are still signing the petition. Stands at over 26,600.

There’s another one to keep CN on LW. It has been running for 5 days. It has 30 signatures.

I think that shows what the people (who sign petitions) think.

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beingthere · 08/09/2018 15:25

Just watched the This Morning clip again. With hindsite it seems so obvious to me that her tears are self pity because she knows her tour is off and can see her lifestyle (showbiz invitations etc not money) disappear along with her reputation.

Not nice to watch but she brought it on herself.

I don’t understand though if she has loads of support why those people didn’t buy tickets to her show or sign the “keep her on LW” petition. 🤔

5minutes · 08/09/2018 15:41

Why are the press following roxanne and Coleen but not Kim?

IamPickleRick · 08/09/2018 15:45

Why are the press following roxanne and Coleen but not Kim?

I imagine they think it’s intrusive to continue chasing a person for more stories when she is clearly still having severe mental turmoil over a still birth, childhood abuse and rape, and feeling victimised in national tv not once (CBB) but twice now.

Shame ITV didn’t think that last week. Shame that no one thought that on the LW panel either.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 08/09/2018 15:48

You'd have to ask the press that 5minutes.

And like beingthere, I am surprised that the "thousands" of supporters CN allegedly has, haven't shown their support in practical terms. They haven't.

youarenotkiddingme · 08/09/2018 17:44

From what I saw of CBB KW was then one with aggressive tendencies and anger issues who 'bullied' other housemates by yelling over them. CN was nice to her face for a period of time and then switched sides quite dramatically.
She admits to being 2 faced and LR alluded to that in LW.

But hearing the extra information like CN was meant to speak first but she didn't - knowing KW would react the way she did - (and she does know as she lived with her!) makes more sense as to why KW is gaining sympathy.

I still don't extend much towards her and don't think having a hard life is any excuse for being vile. But being set up on national TV and caught out unexpectedly does gain my empathy as that's not on however you've behaved in the past.

wolfywolfy · 08/09/2018 20:39

Has anybody read any of the OK articles about it all ?
Very CN sided. Not full facts etc.
All very underhand.

HelenaDove · 08/09/2018 20:53

So was the one in Best magazine wolfy. Saying that KW hit Linda Robson She didnt. She just shrugged her off.

ITVs PR machine.

beingthere · 08/09/2018 21:40

Just looked at OK and Best magazines on Twitter and came across this very strange string of tweets from Sheila Ferguson (three degrees) 😂

mobile.twitter.com/OK_Magazine/status/1037975719983423489

wolfywolfy · 08/09/2018 21:41

There's a video of a loose woman episode on YouTube where CN was also accused of bullying Katie Price..

wolfywolfy · 08/09/2018 21:43
wolfywolfy · 08/09/2018 21:45

Ain't the first time eh Coleen

5Yearplan4000 · 08/09/2018 21:50

Yes there’s definite twisting of the truth going on about the whole thing in some of the supermarket rags. iTV do a lot of advertising in them. Thankfully most people know what they saw.

obviouslyperfect · 08/09/2018 22:12

How would the tour have gone if it hadn’t been for the LW thing? Do you think sales would have been better?

She could have announced the tour on LW. Done her promos on there whilst rehearsing, sneak peaks etc. had adverts between the daytime tv shows, more promos on This Morning... would she have sold enough tickets?

It’s not my thought of thing but on the surface it seems a good idea. I can see why the promoters went for it.

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beingthere · 08/09/2018 22:27

wolfywolfy

That clip! She denied it (that’s obviously her MO) and blamed the seat KP was sitting in 😂

IhatetheArchers · 08/09/2018 22:38

I don't understand where the audience comes from. Travelling across London on a weekday lunchtime, to sit there clapping like a performing seal. I don't care how fucking feisty the panel are, I just wouldn't be doing it.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 09/09/2018 06:06

They aren't even feisty Archers - they seem to be a very smug, self-congratulatory bunch.

TheRealHousewife · 09/09/2018 06:29

These threads are going around in circles.

People stating they don’t get why people are saying it was CN because when they watch the vid they see KW being aggressive from the off.

KW came on set to be met by a panel already seated. Complete with JSP dressed as a judge and accompanied by horror music (I can’t remember the name). KW had been told CN would start the discussion going. She didn’t.

All staged to put KW on the back foot and only served to trigger her trauma based defence mechanism. The most passive aggressive antagonistic act I’ve ever seen on live TV. Then chuck in the unsavoury underbreath comments that could be heard from CN and LN. No wonder KW lost her shit. Most people would have under those circumstances.

The whole set up was staged to get an adverse reaction from a lady whose nearly 80 and clearly suffering from mental anguish.

The only thing I think people are missing is the production team.

They okd the panel and set up. They didn’t cut to an add break when it was getting ugly.

5Yearplan4000 · 09/09/2018 07:10

People are missing the production team and they should take a big part of the blame here. The question is how much CN knew about it- there must have been a meeting with the presenters before the show to go through how it was going to run. I’d love to know exactly what was said.

IamPickleRick · 09/09/2018 07:35

That’s interesting Willy. I can’t seem to find a video of the actual incident though. Wonder what happened there Confused

IamPickleRick · 09/09/2018 07:35

Wolfy not willy Ffs 😂

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