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To think Dianne Abbott will be just as bad as amber Rudd

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jnfrrss · 26/04/2018 17:55

If not woorse, they both seem very clueless and it's embarrassing that they hold important positions and shadows.

Incompetent is an understatement

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Theknacktoflying · 26/04/2018 18:00

It really annoys me how everyone uses degrees to cover over the fact that there are two individuals who are just not up to the job .... incompetence is incompetence, anti semitism is anti semetism regardless of the side of politics ...

HollowTalk · 26/04/2018 18:01

Yes, both as bad as each other.

British politics is so embarrassing now. There's literally nobody to vote for.

SergeantPfeffer · 26/04/2018 18:01

I’m not sure either of them could make as much of a mess as Theresa May! This situation is the result of her unique combination of zealotry and incompetence whilst in charge of the HO. Now she’s in charge of brexit, I mean, what could go wrong 🤦‍♀️

SergeantPfeffer · 26/04/2018 18:03

YY to British politics being embarrassing right now. In an ideal world, May would resign, but who on earth could replace her?! Cabinet of political dregs atm.

Nikephorus · 26/04/2018 18:05

YABU to say that DA would be 'just as bad' - there's no way she's even remotely capable of doing a proper cabinet job. Do you not remember her performance in the last election when she couldn't add up, kept saying the wrong thing and eventually got told not to turn up to an interview when she was already en-route (admit I felt sorry for her then) She actually makes Bumbling Boris look vaguely reasonable (emphasis on vaguely). If Corbyn hadn't shagged her I doubt she'd have the job she's got.

MissionItsPossible · 26/04/2018 18:27

She has such a patronising voice, it goes right through me.

The majority of the politicians these days are completely incompetent and embarrassing and the toxicity surrounding politics at the moment is vile.

FontSnob · 26/04/2018 18:32

Nikephorus, do you mean when she was ill?! Whatever side of politics you’re on she is Cambridge Educated. Hardly stupid. None of them are.

Justanotherlurker · 26/04/2018 18:35

The majority of the politicians these days are completely incompetent and embarrassing and the toxicity surrounding politics at the moment is vile.

Agree, we are turning into the US politics wise, my team good, your team bad.

Doesn't help that Labour decided to follow the populist approach that Trump ran on.

Longdistance · 26/04/2018 18:35

I reckon Coco the fucking clown would do a better job than DA 🤡

Cheesecake53 · 26/04/2018 18:38

UABvvvvvvU

ZenNudist · 26/04/2018 18:38

I wouldnt vote tory at gunpoint (&am very ambivalent about labour now, used to be a staunch labour-ite) but i have to admit almost anyone could do a better job than DA.

Justanotherlurker · 26/04/2018 18:38

Nikephorus, do you mean when she was ill?

She was ill, but the party was stupid putting her forward in that case and although I have respect for her, she has had many foot in mouth moments all throughout her career and she should not be on the front bench, she is woeful, if she was a Tory she would be ripped to shreds just as much

Ohmydayslove · 26/04/2018 18:39

Yes when she was ill??? Not buying that actually she’s just incompetent and that was an excuse. DA performance is generally embarrassing and sometimes hilarious. U tube her and her gaffs are frankly incredible. She’s only there because Corbyn shagged her back in thr day and there is noone else as noone sensible will serve on his front bench.

Amber Rudd is another Jackie smith. Car crash incompetence.

I truly despair really

Believeitornot · 26/04/2018 18:40

Do you not remember her performance in the last election when she couldn't add up, kept saying the wrong thing and eventually got told not to turn up to an interview when she was already en-route
To be fair to dianne, she is no worse than Boris Johnson in terms of grasp of facts and brief. He just gets away with it because he’s male, posh and doesn’t have that annoying voice.

FuzzyCustard · 26/04/2018 18:41

I cannot abide Diane Abbott. She give me the rage whatever she is saying. I think she is a huge liability to the Labour Party and would be top of my list to resign, bar none!

UserV · 26/04/2018 18:41

Can't stand Abbott OR Rudd. Both irksome, irritating, and annoying. And both a bit shit at their job.

Politics would be a bit of a better place, if they would both resign......

Ohmydayslove · 26/04/2018 18:43

Was she ill when she said ‘on balance Mao did more good then harm’ ffs! Or ‘all white oriole play divide and rule’

Of course not she’s just a very silly woman who talks before actually thinking and obviously can’t be arsed to study policies properly and in depth.

A degree does not mean you are intelligent it just means tou can study a subject in depth. There are plenty of silly graduates

UserV · 26/04/2018 18:45

@ohmydayslove

Yes when she was ill??? Not buying that actually she’s just incompetent and that was an excuse. DA performance is generally embarrassing and sometimes hilarious. U tube her and her gaffs are frankly incredible. She’s only there because Corbyn shagged her back in the day and there is noone else as noone sensible will serve on his front bench.

All of this. I just didn't have the nerve to say it LOL.

Ohmydayslove · 26/04/2018 18:45

Add to that list Boris and the equally annoying and incompetent Emily Thornbury.

Yvette, Hillary where are you

Ohmydayslove · 26/04/2018 18:47

User

Never be scared to post your thoughts. She’s akways been a tit. Probably a great constituency MP though but front bench material obviously no just no

PavlovianLunge · 26/04/2018 18:49

Corbyn, Abbot and Thornberry, etc or May, Gove, Hunt, etc. Either way, it’s a shower of shit.

Ohmydayslove · 26/04/2018 18:58

Totally agree pavlovian

I am 50 and seriously cannot remember a worse front bench on both sides. It’s bloody dire it really is.

Thymeout · 26/04/2018 19:05

Fortunately, Yvette and Hillary are chairing Select C'ttees. Without Yvette's questioning of Rudd yesterday, we'd never have got the truth about targets.

After a lifetime in the political wilderness, on the far-flung fringe of the Left, Corbyn has a bunker mentality. Loyalty is all. Competence doesn't matter. He's not over-endowed with competence himself. He's only comfortable with people who think exactly the same as he does who will back him to the hilt. If anyone voices a different point of view, like Clive Lewis, and, increasingly, Angela Rayner, they're pushed out of the inner circle, no matter how good they are.

This leaves him with a very small pool to choose from. He'll never get rid of Abbott, even tho' she's obviously not in the best of health. OK reading out a prepared speech, but hopeless in a debate or in an interview.

And I see Heidi Alexander, ex Shadow Minister of Health, is now rumoured to be moving to work at City Hall. Momentum Trots making trouble in her constituency. Such a waste.

Amanduh · 26/04/2018 19:08

I agree Longdistance 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

jasjas1973 · 26/04/2018 19:09

The gaff that surprised me was Phillip Hammond, the Chancellor, getting HS2 wrong by 20billion, jeez if he cant do basic math god help us.
Rudd is rather unfortunate, she was gutsy standing in after her dad had died (or a cold hearted cow) but now she has to defend the actions of the previous home sec.....

Abbot may be diabetic but if that is affecting her judgement, then she should step down.

Judging by my daughter & friends, they all love Corbyn! and hate May!

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