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To think Dianne Abbott will be just as bad as amber Rudd

105 replies

jnfrrss · 26/04/2018 17:55

If not woorse, they both seem very clueless and it's embarrassing that they hold important positions and shadows.

Incompetent is an understatement

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Ohmydayslove · 26/04/2018 19:16

jasjas

Yeo until he gets in and they realise he actually won’t cancel student debt. My dds friends think they too but dd is more cynical.

Can I add Owen Jones? I just want to send him to brush his teeth and go to bed.

What an annoying tit he is

Ohmydayslove · 26/04/2018 19:16

Hammond is just utterly clueless

Justanotherlurker · 26/04/2018 19:28

@jasjas1973

Every post regarding Abbot you bring up Hammond, so your not really coming from an objective viewpoint. As has been pointed out to you several times, this was Abbots flagship policy and she had her notes in front of her, she messed up the figures but they still didn't add up once everyone gave it her some leeway.

People can criticize politicians without the need for "look over there" tactics.

SeaWitchly · 26/04/2018 19:31

Would prefer either Abbott or Rudd over Boris or Rees-Moggs.

Or Gove Angry

SeaWitchly · 26/04/2018 19:31

Mediocre white men.

With posh voices.

ConciseandNice · 26/04/2018 19:32

God they’re all bloody awful. The state of politics in this country is remarkably bad. I can’t even believe it most days. YANBU.

NetballHoop · 26/04/2018 19:33

They are almost ALL utterly clueless.

Government is full of people who have never had a job outside of politics and this really shows. As a minimum, I think as prospective MP should have worked outside of politics for at least 10 years.

Ohmydayslove · 26/04/2018 19:35

What on earthy has being white or male matter.

Who cares SeaWitchly how strange.

I couldn’t give a bollocks. Age, sex, religion, even colour who cares really now???

Competence is all

Ohmydayslove · 26/04/2018 19:36

Netball

I utterly agree.

CoolCarrie · 26/04/2018 19:38

You are right Netball! Career politicians live in a bubble with their expenses, their daily allowances and subsidies.

Justanotherlurker · 26/04/2018 19:39

Can I add Owen Jones?

Owen Jones who apparently is above populism

Pro Venezuela until it turned to shit, Anti Corbyn until it looked certain he was winning (although he is coming round to the old adage of the left eating itself recently in this regard) and was actually putting out left leaning pro brexit pieces until he decided he would not be popular giving an objective stance.

He's frightened he will turn into Douglas Murray, both can offer excellent commentaries but Owen wants to cling on by his fingernails to the ever moving "right viewpoint" and not own his thoughts.

Justanotherlurker · 26/04/2018 19:43

Mediocre white men.

I think this type of rhetoric is dangerous in more ways than one.

Start using identity politics as an ill in the world, those Mediocre white men. will start to use the same tactic.

Its stupid, simplistic and we are not the US, dont try and bring that shite over here.

Ohmydayslove · 26/04/2018 19:46

I know I remember his flouncing off sky news and making the dreadful American night club massacre all about him.

Little tit head

Ohmydayslove · 26/04/2018 19:50

Yes again agree. White and male so what! Just a yawn. Not a combination to be either competent or not as it doesn’t matter.

Just like Abbott Is middle aged and black and incompetent as is the white middle aged Boris Johnson.

Young white abs stupid Owen jones

White female middle aged and competent Yvette cooper.

Fuck off with your racist sexist ageist stupidity

PavlovianLunge · 26/04/2018 19:58

I’ve long believed that going into politics is like owning a gun; if you want to do it, you probably shouldn’t be allowed to.

UnrelentingFruitScoffer · 26/04/2018 19:59

Almost all of today’s MPs are a couple of notches less good than thirty years ago. They’ve less real education, they have travelled less, they speak fewer languages, fewer of them have lived abroad, fewer of them have done any job outside politics.

It’s really depressing. Most of these people would never get any proper senior job in either the public or the private sector - and yet we expect them to run the country !!

That said, Diane Abbott is one especially poor example and actually worse than the others. It’s that patronising voice as though we were all idiots.

Ohmydayslove · 26/04/2018 20:14

And the closing her eyes when she speaks! Super annoying

God very depressing

Justanotherlurker · 26/04/2018 20:22

@PavlovianLunge

It's a variation of an old saying, but I totally agree.

Believeitornot · 26/04/2018 21:17

Being white and male does matter because dianne Abbott gets way way more stick than Boris Johnson ever did for the shit he comes out with, across the media.

Yes she’s awful. But objectively, the abuse she was met with far outstripped anything that Boris ever faced.

So really it’s about calling out racism and sexism.

For goodness sake even Rudd and May get way more flak than their male counterparts.

Justanotherlurker · 26/04/2018 21:44

Yes she’s awful. But objectively, the abuse she was met with far outstripped anything that Boris ever faced.

You could say there are racist pricks on all sides

twitter.com/AmandeepBhogal/status/989093005800935425

Being white and male does matter because dianne Abbott gets way way more stick than Boris Johnson ever did for the shit he comes out with, across the media.

Boris gets just as much of criticism, if you take of the identity politics glasses you will see that if she was in any other political party, and acted exactly the same as she has throughout her political career she would still be ridiculed for being a trainwreck.

ginghambox · 26/04/2018 21:56

If anyone fancies a laugh Abbott is on QT tonight along with with the equally ridiculous Caroline Lucas.

Ohmydayslove · 26/04/2018 22:43

😂 if you want another laugh u tube Natalie Bennett on LBC talking about building 500 000 council houses For £60 000 each and no land costing.

Bloody hilarious.

Still my fave is Abbott and Merghan on sky talking about terrorism and the Tony Harris report.

Soooo painful and featured in The thick of it. Bless her

Ohmydayslove · 26/04/2018 22:46

So really it’s about calling out racism and sexism

Sgree Dianne is a racist. ‘West Indian mums will go to the wa for their kids*

white peoples love to play divide and rule

Disgraceful racist comments sure you will agree

TonTonMacoute · 26/04/2018 23:12

British politics is so embarrassing now. There's literally nobody to vote for.

^ This, with knobs on!

curiouserand · 27/04/2018 00:36

So agree. Right and left - both utterly incompetent, racist, stupid beyond belief (let's give David Davis an honourable mention here too).

It's amazing how high quality the old Blairite MPs like Yvette seem in comparison to Corbynites. Since everyone with any morals or brains deserted Labour's front bench, it really is the dregs facing the dregs now in the House of Commons.

How much would I love a centre-left party to vote for. And how much would I love Corbyn to go.

Sadly, if May went, she'd just be replaced by someone far worse eg Rees-Mogg, so I can't help hoping she stays.