It's official. There has never been a POTUS as --vile-- unpopular as Trump. Sad! Trump cont.

[MicrowaveSpy]

Link to previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2999592-Were-not-on-a-17-day-vacation-not-us-We-have-meetings-and-calls-Now-where-did-that-golf-ball-go-Trump-cont

Days to hit 61% disapproval (Gallup)

Carter: Never
Reagan: Never
H.W. Bush: Never
Clinton: Never
W. Bush: 1,932
Obama: Never
Trump: 207

twitter.com/brianklaas/status/897143844772433920

Somebody said in those comments....

'Nixon ......actually looks like a sane, moral choice compared to DT.'

I'm not sure I agree entirely but I never thought that I'd look on Dubya with fond reminiscence.

A Spotter's Guide to fascists.

A guide to some of the far-right symbols seen in Charlottesville
www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-far-right-symbols-20170814-story,amp.html

Thanks for the new thread, Microwave. I'm just going to sip my tea and be despondent for a bit. Will perk up eventually. Sez so in my NN...

You need a tray of for that!

Mines a rather more amber bottle. Mature in years...

Oh I have those too. Lots of them. Tomorrow's the 15th after all.

Sorry.

Thank you Microwave

I'm about two-thirds of the way through "To Kill the President" and am finding the line between fiction and reality is becoming increasingly blurred.

Thanks for the thread!

So trump is apparently considering pardoning sheriff apero

www.politico.com/story/2017/08/14/trump-pardon-joe-arpaio-241621

A collection of twitter responses:

Caroline O. @RVAwonk
If Trump pardons Joe Arpaio for refusing to stop a racist policing tactic, he's signaling to his racist base that he's still their guy.

Amy Siskind @Amy_Siskind
More broadly, this is why Trump is so calm on Mueller and the Russia probe: he thinks he can pardon everybody.

White supremacists and neo-Nazis love Joe Arpaio. A pardon from Trump would be seen as a gift to the alt-right.

@dominicholden
The @ACLU says pardoning Joe Arpaio "would be an official presidential endorsement of racism.”

I like Trump , and I like what he has done so far. jobs, debt reduction and lower power bills.
Lowered oil prices across the world, broken the power of OPEC and the USSR.
I can see why that would not appeal to some..but I like it

Thanks Microwave.
Only amusing spot in my world is a series of Australian politicians discovering that they have dual citizenship with other countries and thus were ineligible to ever be elected. Including our deputy PM who has previously been berating others for letting this happen to them.

What exactly has he done to increase jobs?
And lower oil prices?

Do you like the political instability with North Korea? Do you like how he sides with the far right?
Do you like how he profits from the Presidency?

Uhm - you do know the USSR doesn't exist anymore?

Have the bots invaded MN now? Fuck off UnderCracker, or, if that seems harsh back up your bullshit with some facts. I work in energy. Trump has NOT lowered the oil prices. In fact, oil prices have risen steeply in the last couple of weeks. Trump has had nothing to with OPEC's capping (which has largely been ignored at any rate) I'll send you some graphs if it would help.

The US debt has reduced over 30 days. But this is a volatile measure in constant flux and is likely to peak as sharply as it has dipped. Trump has not been an influence on this (the volatility is driven by government budget timings and tax payments falling due)

As for jobs, well 2017 is on course for the lowest net new jobs over the last 7 years.

And, in fairness - I don't care if jobs are at an all time high, energy is free and a fucking unicorn is pissing rainbow juice into your kids cereal bowl. You've got genuine Nazis running America. You've got POTUS refusing to condemn Nazis and you've got a nuclear stand of with Nk

But you like it. You be you. FFS.

Unemployment is down to record lows, focus on energy dominance. Unleasing domestic production.
Political instability with NK stems from Bill Clinton giving them two nuclear reactors, five billion dollars in return for a promise to end their nuclear programme.
Nobody likes the far right

get out of your echo-chamber. do some research

undercracker

How's pay doing? Going up is it?

Unemployment is not down to a record low
What on earth do you mean by "energy dominance"? Are you referring to fracking and the US becoming a net exporter of LNG?
No
OK, we can agree on that but Trump IS the far right, so it would appear you do
No - you do some research. Try reading.

CatGirl, oil is less than 50 dollars a barrel.

where is your 'peak oil' meme now?

undercracker

And 3 days to discuss the alt-right? Why? Considering he tweets so quickly about other stuff?

Will trans people be banned from the military?

Do you like the way he 'others' groups and dehumanises them?

undercracker

If he only tweets polls he agrees with but doesn't tweet the same polls when they show bad results, doesn't that make him fake news?

Someone who only tells his followers the good stuff an d dismisses the negative stuff?

Um

No. It's trading at about $53 a barrel right now.

At the start of June it was about $43

So...it's peaked pretty sharply over the last 6 weeks.

I can do you a chart if that's too difficult

Nobody like the far right? I think that's a bit of a sweeping statement given the presence of Steve Bannon in the White House.

Jake Tapper is a must watch on this one IMO.

edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/08/14/trump-versus-his-enemies-montage-lead.cnn

Keep calm, catgirl. I know it's difficult for you right now.

You'll have to point us in the direction of the rather... interesting places you do YOUR research, UnderCracker, given you believe the USSR still exists and that oil prices have gone down...