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It's been just over a week, and what a week. Amazing. So good. The best.

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amispartacus · 28/01/2017 12:04

Follow up from previous thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2837382-Donald-Trump-the-first-week-is-BAD-What-next-Come-all-ye-Beautifuls?

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AcrossthePond55 · 29/01/2017 00:27

LonelyImSoLonely

There is nothing codified in US law that says a President must be a Christian. Just that he/she must be 35 years of age, a natural born citizen, and have been resident in the US for 14 years.

It's widely speculated that Thomas Jefferson was an atheist, although he apparently described himself as a 'non-trinitarian deist'. Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Johnson had no specific religious affiliations.

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 00:27

50 detained at Dallas Fort Worth still.

ZebraOwl · 29/01/2017 00:28

Errrrr, there is no legal requirement for the U.S. President to be Christian. The reverse, in fact, religion must not be a barrier to appointment to any public office. It just happens that almost all U.S. Presidents have been [at least vaguely] Christian: www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/20/almost-all-presidents-have-been-christians/

Unlike in the U.K. where religious discrimination was in force between 1673 & 1829 in the form of the Test Acts meaning that, amongst other things, Catholics could not be MPs & thus were unable to become Prime Minister. (Sucked to be us, basically. Sucked to be us...)

Chippednailvarnishing · 29/01/2017 00:31

From the onion;
Melania Trump: Donald’s third wife, a former model from Slovenia, is credited with opening her husband’s eyes to the beauty of all types of people from across the globe being welcomed into our nation
Grin

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 00:32

No, that's true. Most presidents are christians, but that's down to voters, not the law. They talk a very good game of separation of church and state, but when it comes right down to it, it's a lie - religion plays such a huge part in politics in the US - for some anyway.

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 00:34

Just posted on twitter by someone:

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30+ NYPD vans on the way - just saw them on the highway. Be safe #Terminal4 @ JFK Int'l-Terminal… www.instagram.com/p/BP1AeWbjjh-/

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 00:38

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We will be in ct in 30 mins - at 730 Eastern - in our case against Trump order.

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 00:39
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Another Saturday, another coast to coast protest demonstration against Trump. What happens next Saturday?

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 00:41

Looks like this is part of the new EO regarding the NSC - it allows Flynn to exclude some people from the meetings that he doesn't want there - presumably so they can't override him??

(( Matt Milliken )) ‏*@memomoment* 51m51 minutes ago
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@ZekeJMiller Wild-eyed conspiracy-purveyor Michael Flynn is barring the director of nat'l intel and nation's top military officer from #NatSec meetings.

woman12345 · 29/01/2017 00:45

Posted this on the other thread, dedicate it to all the Joe Hills out in the cold at the airports tonight:

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 00:49

Riot police at JFK now, although all reports say that protesters have been peaceful, chanting.

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 00:50

Another demonstration planned at Battery Park tomorrow.

Marcipex · 29/01/2017 00:50

So worrying.

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 00:51

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NYPD is now stopping protestors from getting to JFK via the subway.

Destinysdaughter · 29/01/2017 00:51

Theresa May needs to be sent this:

It's been just over a week, and what a week. Amazing. So good. The best.
LowestCommonDenominatorWins · 29/01/2017 00:52

Thanks zebra

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 00:52

Apparently there are about 50 green card holders being detained at LAX right now. Solicitors are being rounded up for them.

ZebraOwl · 29/01/2017 00:53

Would you like to enjoy some heavy HEAVY irony, mes amies?

Alors, one of the classes of people ACTUALLY prevented from entering the U.S. by the Immigration & Nationality Act (1965) is:

"FOREIGN GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHO HAVE COMMITTED PARTICULARLY
SEVERE VIOLATIONS OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM - Any alien who, while serving as a foreign government official, was responsible for or directly carried out, at any time, particularly severe violations of religious freedom, as defined in section 3 of the International Religious Freedom Act of 1998 (22 U.S.C. 6402), is inadmissible."

Presumably they didn't foresee (even when it was amended in 2013) needing to ban their own President from re-entering the country. Clearly it's only FOREIGN government officials who'd do something like that. Do you think Anonymous could just take out that one little word for us? And surely SOMEONE with access to the hard copies could break out the Tippex/tear out that page/otherwise do what's necessary. Desperate times, and all that...

It is this Act that makes Trump's antics illegal, btw: www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/opinion/trumps-immigration-ban-is-illegal.html

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 00:53

Owen Jones ‏*@OwenJones84* 17s18 seconds ago
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Owen Jones Retweeted Owen Jones
Downing Street, Monday 7pm, protest the #MuslimBan and Theresa May's alliance with Trump. Details asap about demos across the country too.

woman12345 · 29/01/2017 00:58

From other thread
Shaun King @shaunking
HUGE DEAL.

New Executive Order from Trump removes Director of National Intelligence & Joint Chiefs of Staff from National Security Council

AcrossthePond55 · 29/01/2017 00:59

The Donald boasts of his own mother's immigration from Scotland when it suits his purposes, yet conveniently forgets that he is the child of an immigrant when it serves his purpose.

BagelGoesWalking · 29/01/2017 01:00

Shit. My DS and gf heading for JFK now (I'd thought they were flying early tomorrow but had got times mixed up)

woman12345 · 29/01/2017 01:00

Aren't most people?

ZebraOwl · 29/01/2017 01:01

woman12345

WTH?! So it'll be Trump & who now?! His wig collection?

Is it possible he's trying to get himself removed?

woman12345 · 29/01/2017 01:02

Aren't most people immigrants or children or grand children of some one who has moved from their birth place, I thought it was what humans do.