to think Brian May could be anti foxhunting without......

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telling an hunting geezer "you are all f+cking liars" (Newsnight TV thurs)
I am anti foxhunting too and Cameron should not try to sneak it back

Debate in Parliament on Tuesday

I've had plenty of debates (both on here and in real life) about fox hunting so I'm not interested in getting into another one, however Mr May's conduct on newsnight pretty much sums up the anti hunting movement.

This time next week it'll be legal again. Bring it on!

Regardless of what the debate is about and what side you take, reducing yourself to insults and profanities certainly doesn't win anyone my support.

He's a damned good guitarist though. Love Queen!

And how would you feel, manina, if the pack ripped a fox to pieces on your patio in front of your children? Yeah, right.

Has that happened to you Whether? How horrible. Did you have to deal with the remains after the hunt had gone?

I'm with manina. Luckily I haven't got a patio. I wonder how many times whether has seen the conclusion to a fox hunt? Because I would put a massive wad of cash on the fact it is nowhere near the amount of times I have seen the conclusion of a fox hunt. The actual reality of it is incredibly quick and nowhere near as bloodthirsty as the anti hunting brigade would have people think. Plus hounds don't actually like the taste of fox as a meat, it is not a feast but a very quick dispatch.

I'm not getting dragged into another hunting debate so will duck out before I'm called 'violent scum of the lowest order' and told I am likely to go on to abusing my pet spaniel, as happened last time!

Hunting is a vile, cruel idiocy and anyone who finds pleasure in the horrific and terrifying death of an innocent animal whilst calling it sport is beneath my contempt.

I am extremely knowledgeable in this field so am saying that from a place of vast education and experience and won't be drawn in to debating or commenting further. My last word on the subject is KARMA.

I am beyond your contempt then. Oh dear. That's me re-evaluating my entire life then.

I just don't get where's the fun in terrifying an animal then ripping it apart. Why would anyone enjoy it? Its mind boggling.

As Oscar Wilde puts it its "the unspeakable chasing the uneatable'

I have seen many Fox hunts. It goes through the land I live on and many people round here partake. I will never understand how members so a so-called 'civilised society' can take pleasure in such a thing. It is no more civilised than pit bull fighting, apart from you wear a smarter jacket and drink port.

Sometimes it's a quick death and sometimes its not. It does little to keep Fox numbers down (I mention this as this is often the only argument people can put forward to justify their behaviour). I'd have slightly more respect if they'd just admit they liked the savagery.

It would be pretty undemocratic to bring it back as it was a law passsed with a ridiculously high approval rating. Showing once again the government doesn't give a fuck about the plebs as long as their tossed, simpleton friends are happy

*tosser, not tossed

Didn't see it, but it's a shame as it plays right into the hands of the blithering idiots arguing to lift the ban.

Think it says a lot that on the day Osborne was announcing a budget full of cuts that will effect the lives of many, many people in this country our "leader" was arguing that it was 'right and fair' (how the hell he uses those words without choking is beyond me) that people should have the right to waste parliamentary time & effort debating the lifting of the ban. Priorities.

There must be something seriously wrong with people who think fox hunting is ok.
It says it all that the people who want the ban lifted are rich Tories who have no compassion or empathy towards anyone other than the rich
If fox numbers do need to be controlled then it should be done humanely.

KARMA?!?! What, you think bad bad things will happen to anyone involved in hunting. Do bad bad things happen to everyone who eats battery chickens or beer from cows who've been kept in sheds all their lives?

I agree entirely with the op; Brian May doesn't need to swear. However, i detest fox hunting and am aghast that it is taking up any parliament time or effort

It would be pretty undemocratic to bring it back as it was a law passsed with a ridiculously high approval rating. Showing once again the government doesn't give a fuck about the plebs as long as their tossed, simpleton friends are happy

This pretty much sums it up.

I think it's pretty poor to resort to name calling. If nothing else it wastes air time that could be used to get the message across, whatever that may be.

I'm against fox hunting and I'm pissed off that this government is going to waste time debating it in order to keep their friends happy.

But I agree that it's illogical for people to get emotional about fox hunting if they're prepared to eat battery farmed meat.

There are a lot of debates that waste parliamentary time.

But I agree fox hunting was banned for a reason, it should stay banned.

That assumes that they do eat battery farmed meat.

However I don't think the two are directly comparable, though I do see the similarities.

The purpose of a battery farmed hen (or anything) is to produce food.

The purpose of the chased fox is to provide entertainment.

As much as I don't like either, I can deal with the former slighter better than the latter.

I can deal with fox hunting slightly better than battery farming as the fox has an organic life to all intents and purposes before he's ripped to shreds. I'd rather have a good life with a tragic end than a life that's grim from start to finish.

Doesn't mean I'm not disgusted at the thought of the reintroduction of fox hunting to the British countryside though.

Personally I think Brian May is an insufferable idiot. I didn't see this particular incident, but it doesn't surprise me.

Well i think i would rather have the foxes deal in life over a battery hen every day!
Fox = wild animal, lives in natural habitat. End of life is a contentious point but it is the end of life, not its whole life.
Hen = alive for 29 miserable days (if for food) in a space the size of an A4 piece of paper. Bred so badly the legs cannot take the weight of the bird, hence ammonia burns on the chest and legs. Has never seen daylight. End is relatively quick.

I wonder what the chicken would pick. I'm not sure the fact that it is reared to produce food justifies the method of its keeping. At least foxes have a good life for most of it.

You see, I accept that crappy things happen in nature. Baby seals or penguins getting raped to death by otters or sea lions etc

I just have a really big problem with people wandering about freely who take their pleasure and entertainment from watching a creature suffer. No other reason than the joy of it. I just think it's a bit twisted.

I suppose, as much at I don't like the thought of the animal suffering, it's that people want to do it I object to rather than the act itself. If that makes any sense.

So even though both foxes and battery hens suffer, the hens suffering is a side effect not the main thrust. The person buying a battery hen to eat isn't buying it because the hen suffered.

I'm sure that comes as great comfort to the hen.

Hate foxes with a passion. Vile chicken killing things. But all for banning the hunt for the sole reason of mildly inconveniencing the privileged few.
Poncing about with their stupid costumes and stupid horns riding mummy's favourite horse...