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Indyref 9

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IrnBruTheNoo · 11/09/2014 14:00

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Sallyingforth · 12/09/2014 14:03

Irnbru
So you won't be wanting the BBC in Scotland then?

ffallada · 12/09/2014 14:03

True (Wings isn't the best).

But if you are a Tory supporter, and David Cameron (who can give out peerages and the like which is a system you buy into as a Tory supporter) invites you to a nice wee chat and asks you if you would pop up and say that you will increase prices 6 days before a referendum, whether you would or not, I suggest that you will agree.

You would be stupid not too.
And these guys are not stupid.

We have 97% of the country eligible to vote registered to vote. This is amazing!

If team WM doesn't play all the underhand cards they can find it would be a huge disservice to us. (Of course they should, if they had any respect for Scotland, started earlier)

StatisticallyChallenged · 12/09/2014 14:03

And the nhs

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IrnBruTheNoo · 12/09/2014 14:05

Sally I watch the BBC News but with much scrutiny even more than normal now. I used to think they were unbiased compared to Sky News and other such channels, but after recent events (Youtube showing unedited new reports) I've really come to the conclusion all is to be taken with a large pinch of salt where BBC News are concerned.

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oddcommentator · 12/09/2014 14:05

Sadly statistically - this is the way of the debate. Trounced and beaten on the economy they drape themselves in the saltire.

As jobs slide south - they stamp and yell "traitors" .

We said that business would move. It has or will. Must be a terrible feeling realising that you were utterly and completely wrong on a key issue. Here have some blue facepaint it will cover up the red faces.

ffallada · 12/09/2014 14:06

"Team Scotland." that's simply an expansion of the ludicrous traitor rhetoric which is doing the rounds
I am have not seen that from any Yes campaigners. In fact, from the yes campaigners I have seen people being reminded to be respectful at all times.

Haven't seen that from the no camp

cedricsneer · 12/09/2014 14:08

So, will there be another mn poll?

oddcommentator · 12/09/2014 14:08

Then out pop the conspiracy theories. Usually used to justify a long held grudge.

Bank tells customers it will protect their savings. - it must be an evil conspiracy against us
Shops says it would have to change its pricing - conspiracy

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IrnBruTheNoo · 12/09/2014 14:08

There will be many back handers going on at the moment. The corruption is rife amongst the elite.

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oddcommentator · 12/09/2014 14:09

Do you have any idea how silly that even sounds

Sallyingforth · 12/09/2014 14:11

As displayed above, Yes very much want it to be team Scotland against team Westminster. It suggests that No voters are being disloyal and voting against their country.
But it doesn't seem to be working. Even the16 yo's are seeing through it.

Back to work...

EarthWindFire · 12/09/2014 14:11

I have seen people being reminded to be respectful at all times.

It doesn't mean people are being so.

There will be many back handers going on at the moment. The corruption is rife amongst the elite.

Oh please...

AnnieHoo · 12/09/2014 14:13

The Yes campaign have done a good job on well practiced Nationalist strategies like claiming the flag.

Nationalism creates an "other" a "them", a "they" that all blame is placed upon.

It escapes all responsibility by shouting "conspiracy!" "Leak!" "Unfair!" "Corruption!"

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IrnBruTheNoo · 12/09/2014 14:13

Leaked information from the Treasury? Criminal offence AFAIK.

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IrnBruTheNoo · 12/09/2014 14:15

I cannot ever remember the saltire flying from 10 Downing Street until only recently. If DC loves Scotland so much why hasn't it been flying proud every single day?

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BardarbungaBardarbing · 12/09/2014 14:15

Team Scotland is a horrible campaign tactic.

EarthWindFire · 12/09/2014 14:16

Leaked information from the Treasury?

Do you know for a fact it was leaked or is it speculation!?

oddcommentator · 12/09/2014 14:17

Because the Union flag already includes it? Because it is the parliament for all of Britain. Any more?

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IrnBruTheNoo · 12/09/2014 14:17

"Do you know for a fact it was leaked or is it speculation!?"

To have the confidence to openly state it is an offence and there is now going to be an inquiry into this, then I doubt AS would say it if it was only speculation. It would not give him any credibility if he made it up, would it?!

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IrnBruTheNoo · 12/09/2014 14:18

"Because the Union flag already includes it? "

If that's the case, why the need to fly the saltire flag then??

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ffallada · 12/09/2014 14:19

I'm off to work too.

If you don't think corruption is rife amongst the elite I wonder if you have any awareness how this country works. May I remind you of the expenses scandal (which didn't happen in Scotland because a system was put in place years ago to prevent the fiddling of expenses. Of course it took a smaller scandal to put MSP's expenses online (taxi for mclechie anyone?).)

EarthWindFire · 12/09/2014 14:20

To have the confidence to openly state it is an offence and there is now going to be an inquiry into this, then I doubt AS would say it if it was only speculation. It would not give him any credibility if he made it up, would it?!

Wouldn't he then? Where is his proof. You doubt he would? I'd be wanted to see evidence myself?

The referendum would be over once the enquiry is done.

oddcommentator · 12/09/2014 14:22

Irn - damned if they do and damned if they don't eh?

If WM reaches out - they are underhand, if they do nothing, they are arrogant.

really - there is nothing they can do is there?

PhaedraIsMyName · 12/09/2014 14:22

Isn't "Team Scotland" Eck 's own words?

EarthWindFire · 12/09/2014 14:22

If you don't think corruption is rife amongst the elite I wonder if you have any awareness how this country works

Yes I do know how it works thank you but you are aware that there are Scottish elite aswell don't you?