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AIBU ... to STILL feel positively evangelical about electronic cigarettes? [thread 2]

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magimedi · 15/11/2013 22:02

Here we go with thread two.

There is a great deal of information on Thread One about vaping :

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1865547-to-feel-positively-evangelical-about-electronic-cigarettes?pg=1

I think that many of us have been able to give up smoking thanks to e-cigs & vaping & are all feeling the positive results & want to spread the message.

OP posts:
QueenStromba · 18/11/2013 18:19

You put liquid in both but only attach one at a time to your battery.

HettiePetal · 18/11/2013 18:42

Ah - I see.

Are the cartomisers so that you can swap flavours around?

I'm using coffee - it's very strong. Will I get used to it?

Cantabile · 18/11/2013 18:45

Hettie, Mrstigs, KungFu, congratulations Thanks

You are all doing so much better than I am, and I am really delighted for you. I shall be where you are one day, I know it now.

QueenStromba · 18/11/2013 19:03

I think they just gave you a mix of clearos and cartos since it's a starter kit so you can figure out which type you prefer Hettie.

Livesforbedtime · 18/11/2013 19:41

Ok so I'm very tempted by this but all these words about clearos and cartos etc are confusing me!

Can anyone tell me a, what do I need to buy and b what I'm meant to do!

Livesforbedtime · 18/11/2013 19:54

www.vapeland.co.uk/vision-v3-ego-black-kit---900mah-97-p.asp

Is this one any good?

HettiePetal · 18/11/2013 20:00

That's very similar to what I've just bought, Lives HERE

That has everything you need except the liquid, which you choose seperately.

Just charge up, put the liquid in, vape :)

HettiePetal · 18/11/2013 20:04

I watched this to tell me what to do:

KungFuBustle · 18/11/2013 22:30

Thank you Cantabile. You can do it too. I swear I never thought I'd be here. I thought I was weak and couldn't do it. I love this thread. DH and I are through another day. My lungs feel better and when I hug DH he smells like fabric softener, coffee and his toiletries. Isn't is strange today is the first time I smelled my husband not his fags!

I'm wearing perfume to bed tonight so when he cuddles in I smell nice and it won't be masked by smoke.

HettiePetal · 19/11/2013 18:34

Hi all :)

Vaping is making me cough. Any hints & tips?

TY!

KungFuBustle · 19/11/2013 18:47

I'm having the same thing Hettie. Chest feeling sore too. I'm assuming it's the lack of shit being inhaled getting the lungs all excited so they're having a clear out.

Are you coughing only when vaping or through the day? Simple linctus is good for ex smokers cough. Vicks on feet if you're coughing through the night.

HettiePetal · 19/11/2013 18:53

No, it's the back-of-the-throat hit that's making me cough - with every drag.

Not an awful cough, but annoying.

I'm wondering if it's something that my throat will adjust to.

Surprising, given the 2000 chemicals and tar it's been coping with for years Grin

HettiePetal · 19/11/2013 18:55

What linctus would you recommend, Kung. I might get some in so that I'm prepared.

KungFuBustle · 19/11/2013 18:59

Maybe a different flavor? DH has coffee and I can't bear it (love coffee usually) I found that had too strong a kick.

I just ask for simple linctus in the chemist. Just comes as a plain brown bottle with pharmacy printed label. I Had it during pregnancy, very non druggy cough syrup but means if you need it or two weeks in one go you won't hammer your insides.

mrstigs · 19/11/2013 19:08

Hey guys. well i made it through yesterday, self pity and all! Thanks for the well wishes. Smile
I've got spearmint atm, I like it, like smoking chewing gum! Fancy trying a fruit one next. I seem to have used an awful lot of the stuff last few days, but its been my first two smoke free days and I've been hitting it quite hard, hopefully I'll slow down with it soon. I even used it in bed last night (was in bed early due to the pain in my neck) was very funny 'smoking' in bed! Grin
Hope everyone is managing well, both those quitting and cutting down.
One question, how long do you all vape for in one time? As in, how long do you feel equals one fag? I don't want to increase my nicotine addition hitting the ecig too hard!

HettiePetal · 19/11/2013 19:08

Yes - the coffee is too strong for me as well. And I love coffee too.

Am trying the aniseed now, which is better - and I might have a go on the chocolate lime later.

I read just now that the nicotine is actually absorbed through mucus membranes in the mouth, so I'm just sucking & holding rather than inhaling for the time being.

:)

HettiePetal · 19/11/2013 19:11

Well done, mrstigs. How's the neck now?

Yes - the knowing when to stop is odd now that there's no stubbing out!

I used to take 6 drags on my rollies, so I stop at 6 with this. Seems to work for me. Although if you were on tailor made before, there's a few extra drags on those, I think, because they're longer.

KungFuBustle · 19/11/2013 19:13

Aniseed! after one memorable night with sambucca I can no longer do aniseed.

Nice one Mrstigs. I do about 6 puffs for each use. I use about 2ml a day.

mrstigs · 19/11/2013 20:48

I can't suck and hold (there's a rude joke in there somewhere but I've had too many painkillers to are it Smile , I just can't not inhale. I was just trying it. Shame as i guess it would be more effective.
HettiePetal Its better today, thanks, for asking. Hurts to buggery and i can't hold the weight of my head for long, but its not frozen in one place now which is nice. Im really proud of myself for not buckling and asking dh to go buy fags. Its the kind of reason i would have jumped on for a heavy smoking day in the past.
I think i am using too much at once, it is indeed harder when you don't have an obvious end point like you do with a normal cig. I'll try and keep count from now on.

QueenStromba · 19/11/2013 20:58

I'm always surprised when people actually like aniseed - bleugh.

HettiePetal · 19/11/2013 21:05

You lot are mad - aniseed is delicious.

Anyway - the vaping is really too strong for my throat, I can't even draw a little bit in without it stinging and making me cough.

This might be because I had quite a nasty cold a few weeks ago & I still have a bit of post nasal drip making it sensitive. Or, the nicotine (18mg) is too high for me OR I'm reacting to the PG.

So, I have ordered some lower nicotine & some VG based to see if I get on better.

But, till they arrive, I'm back to my baccy - although I've only had 2 of those today, so that's already mega progress for me.

Keep on keeping on, y'all :)

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 19/11/2013 21:35

Evening all!

Hettie, Kungfu and mrstigs congratulations! Flowers

Cantabile you're doing brilliantly! Count the fags you're not smoking, not the ones you are Wink How much have you saved? How many fags a day are you not smoking?

Hettie I had the cough/tickly throat for the first couple of days and still do a bit on the first vape of the day. You could try getting VG based liquid if it continues. What level of nicotine are you using? Higher nic hits your throat more too. Guess what simple linctus mostly consists of? Vegetable glycerine (VG) same as e-liquid Grin (DO NOT swig your e liquid!) I bet it would do the trick though, you'd just be pre-coating your throat.

mrstigs if I'm not too busy and I'm somewhere it's ok, I tend to chain-vape Blush This is how I used to smoke my rollies though, given the choice - a couple of drags - let it go out - few mins later repeat. It's what I hated most about the smoking ban, you suddenly had to hoover a whole one all in one go. Your body will tell you when you've had enough nicotine though and you'll just put it down. This was something I was a bit worried about when I started so I did some reading. What I discovered was:

  1. there is no evidence that nicotine on its own is any more physically harmful than caffeine, although it seems to be much more addictive
  2. Most vapers get through around 2-5ml a day
  3. you don't get the massive nicotine hit all at once as you do with smoking, it's a much gentler, more even intake
  4. most people spend longer vaping than they ever did smoking, probably because of this

For me, I've decided to just use whatever it takes to not smoke for now and worry about cutting down after xmas.

KungFuBustle · 19/11/2013 21:41

Sounds like a sensible approach Plenty. I've told DP we don't need to worry about how much we use as you would stop before it's too much as you'd feel awful and it's so much cheaper.

DH seems to ration his and he's having a rougher time of it. I just Vale when I want. Each Vale is a fag not smoked.

Tiredmumno1 · 19/11/2013 21:46

Hettie it probably is that the nicotine is to high, and if it is pure VG then it will hurt the throat. As VG is a pure throat hit. Maybe try 50/50 or pure PG (tips lol sorry terrible joke). What have you got on order?

Tiredmumno1 · 19/11/2013 21:48

Whoops x post with plenty Grin I thought the VG WS the throat hit?