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To think all men are basically pervs?

390 replies

mrsluvvaluvva · 01/03/2012 13:49

Hi there

Felt compelled to ask this as just lately I have really been seeing men in a different light when in social settings. Perhaps I am just getting old and grumpy or reading something that isn't there.

I have been to a few parties recently and have been really conscious of men eyeing up very young almost tartily dressed teenagers. These girls were dressed very glamorously but waay too old for their age. I saw a couple of girls probably aged 16/17 and a couple over 18's, but not by much.

What I found worrying was middle aged men blatently eyeing them up and more worrying men in my group of friends/family. Men old enough to be their dad's. Not necessarily gawping but craftily staring when they could. Now I'm talking not just about a pretty girl but proper tarted up, hot pants the lot.

It made me feel quite sick to see middle aged men perving like this, so am I being unreasonable here to think even nice guys are secret pervs and although they may not be happy with their daughters dressed up like that, they will happily ogle others?

OP posts:
molly3478 · 03/03/2012 09:27

Its the rules when I was out clubbing at 16 if you are sexy and attractive then you can check me and my friends out as much as you like and we love it. If you are old, overweight, bald, have excess amounts of facial hair or have any other characteristics we dont like you are just a perv. Wink

molly3478 · 03/03/2012 09:32

Also same applies for workmen fit young sexy ones with decent bodies are allowed to whistle and shout, old blokes with skin like leather look like they are constantly smoking rollies and never wear suncream with a beer belly - perv. There the rules I dont make them just enforce them think there should be some kind of book on what is allowed Smile

ItsOnlyAQuestion · 03/03/2012 11:50

Labelling ALL men as perverts is extreme. Some men can be, yes, as some Women are too.

LovedayPan · 03/03/2012 12:08

and what constitutes being a 'perv' anyway?

ItsOnlyAQuestion · 03/03/2012 12:57

the cook not every single man in the world has used a prostitute. You haven't met every single, living man in the world in your career, it is impossible. So you are chatting BOLLOX!

Or would you like me to say that ALL sex workers are victims of sex abuse in their childhoods, in response.

ItsOnlyAQuestion · 03/03/2012 12:59

not every single individual* man in the world has used a prostitute.

ItsOnlyAQuestion · 03/03/2012 13:04

not only married men with families use whores either.

They could be telling lies to the whore.

Whatmeworry · 03/03/2012 13:06

and what constitutes being a 'perv' anyway?

Man I fancy checking me out = Not Perv
Man I fancy checking other women out = Perv
Man I don't fancy checking me out = Perv
Man I don't fancy checking other women out (how dare he = what's wrong with ME) = Bastard Perv

Sorted.

ItsOnlyAQuestion · 03/03/2012 13:20

Checks out, looks up and down Grin whatmeworry i'm straight female

Maryz · 03/03/2012 13:46

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Morloth · 03/03/2012 13:55

thecook even assuming that all men who use prostitutes are married (and that is obviously not the case) it doesn't necessarily follow that all married men use prostitutes.

Like mal and HD it always amuses me on these threads when someone gets all excited and desperate and announces that ALL men are pervs/use porn/visit prostitutes and that those of us who actually know our husbands, are deluded and should take the word of some internet random over the man we have lived with and known for a very long time.

It is like some bizarre attempt to normalise their experience.

ItsOnlyAQuestion · 03/03/2012 14:06

True Morlath and do not forget that some prostitutes clients are lawyers and Dr.s and Judges so that makes prostitutes choice of profession not in one bit self harming. Also some women who sleep with their date after he/she has bought dinner are whoring themselves too. Yawn.

carmenelectra · 03/03/2012 14:18

Woah!
Think this thread is slightly crazy.

Of course its ok for men and women to look at attractive members of the opposite sex. Ogle, leer and flirt. Yes, we all do it to varios, harmless degrees.

The OP is talking about middle aged men letching after. Teenage girls. That is gross.I cannot believe for one second that any woman would be laughing and cracking jokes if her dh was behaving like this over a girl who was 16 or 17. I would be appalled. All the biology stuff is bollocks!
And thecOok, you talk shite too. Making out all married men need(or want)to see a hooker. Like we haven't heard this crap before!
Some of us have men who prefer to have sex with a woman who genuinely fancies them. And some of us women actually enjoy sex yer know and have adventurous sex lives. Just because you may see clients who tell you their wives are frigid.

However, I have to agree, there is a lot of naivety here. Some women are sometimes completely oblivious to what their husbands are like or really up to!

Maryz · 03/03/2012 14:31

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NowThenWreck · 03/03/2012 14:35

Of course any man will look at young girls with their bits on show!
Of course they will have a sneaky peek.It doesn't neccessarily make them perverts.
It doesn't mean they are immediately going to start grooming one of them.

I perve at fit builders all the time. And I am surprised the local rugby club hasn't taken out a restraining order on me, the number of times I walk past for an ogle when they are practising, all muddy and sweaty.

WellDoneYou · 03/03/2012 14:44

carmen you stated - some members of the opposie sex.

Gay/lesbian people exist too, they look at same sex people they find attractive.

ILoveDinosaurs · 03/03/2012 15:04

Ermmm what about the bisexual amongst us?

Do we just perv at EVERYONE?!

Archemedes · 03/03/2012 15:16

This thread has taken on a life of its own indeed.

SarahStratton · 03/03/2012 15:56

I luffs Tiggy, I do Grin

MrGin · 03/03/2012 16:29

I went to the Sid James school of perving and tend to go for the classic 'hole cut in newspaper' approach.

Sarah. did you not see the dinosaur picture I did for you ?

Took me ages !

hathorinareddress · 03/03/2012 16:39

So, men looked at young girls who were dressed in a way to make people notice them.

Hold. The. Front. Page.

SarahStratton · 03/03/2012 16:55

Ooh no, not at all, where is it Gin? Grin

MrGin · 03/03/2012 16:58

It's on FB sarah..... for the whole world to see.

SarahStratton · 03/03/2012 16:58

Found it, that's brilliant! Grin

MrGin · 03/03/2012 17:02

:o

I would have done more but I was busy perving at all the young women of FB posing in their knickers working