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Measles Outbreak?

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MoaningLisa · 27/05/2011 13:56

I am sure you have all heard on the news that there has been an outbreak of measles.

Papers, Schools, Hv, Drs are saying if you or your child haven't had the vaccine(s) now would be a good time to get it done.

I cant help but think though that the parents who haven't and wont get their child vaccinated are putting their children at risk.

Aibu to think that its just bloody selfish and very daring to play with their own childs life?

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LilQueenie · 27/05/2011 13:58

yabu because there is possibly more chance that a child who was vaccinated with the actual virus caused it.

GandTiceandaslice · 27/05/2011 13:59

Very weirdly, I had a call from my doctors the other day saying my DD hadn't had her booster.
She's 11!
I'm quite Blush
I feel terrible. Especially as she'll go mad when she hears she has to have this injection. I can't see how I managed tio miss it the 1st time arounbd though.

Original poster
MoaningLisa · 27/05/2011 14:00

Lil how was it? If a child is not vaccinated then they can become a carrier, rather than a child who has had the vaccine.

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Gastonladybird · 27/05/2011 14:00

When do you need booster as seems to vary
From area to area?

manicbmc · 27/05/2011 14:01

Utter rubbish as the viruses used in vaccines are not 'live' or you would be advised to keep your kids away from others/pregnant women etc. after they have been vaccinated.

If people hadn't believed the crap about the MMR causing autism (which has been completely discredited) then there wouldn't be an outbreak now.

My kids are immunised. I'm immune to mumps as have had it and also had rubella but am now wondering if I should ask about getting a measles immunisation for myself as it wasn't available when I was a kid.

slowshow · 27/05/2011 14:02

I don't quite follow, LilQueenie. Even if a vaccinated child caused it (and I'm not sure that's possible - is the measles vaccine live? I have no idea) it's the unvaccinated children who spread it, surely?

PaisleyLeaf · 27/05/2011 14:02

Sometime, later next week, when this thread is still running, you're going to rue the day you started this thread.
Mark my words.

donnie · 27/05/2011 14:05

why should people be forced to get the MMR though, if all they want is a measles vaccine? who would want unecessary vaccinations? if the govt had made single vaxes available then a lot more children would have been vaccinated(bangs head against wall).

Going to hide this thread now. Good luck with it.

Original poster
MoaningLisa · 27/05/2011 14:06

slowShow
Thats what i thought.
Itds obvious that the children not vaccinated are spreading it, not the that have been vaccinated.

Both my boys have and only a few weeks ago there was a notice on the nursery door saying there was an outbreak of measles and if your child has not been vaccinated, keep them away from nursery.

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cushionyet · 27/05/2011 14:06

I dunno if she will regret starting it to be honest... Unless she cares hugely about people being all big and horrible to her on the scary internet. If I had started a thread along similar lines, I wouldn't give a shit how many anti-vaccination supporters came along and told me why I was supposedly wrong, because I don't think I am.

LilQueenie · 27/05/2011 14:08

well even with the vaccine you are not immune to ever getting the disease. Its a major myth you cant catch it if you have the vaccine.

fastedwina · 27/05/2011 14:09

curious to know how many have actually opted out of the recommended vaccines. I'd imagine it's still a very small number - wonder what the stats are.

manicbmc · 27/05/2011 14:10

The cases where that has happened are such a minute percentage that you'd have to have a damn good reason not to immunise imo.

It is those who get measles, not those that have been immunised, who are passing it on.

LilQueenie · 27/05/2011 14:12

How effective is this vaccine?
The first dose of MMR vaccine produces good immunity to measles (95?98%), mumps (97%), and rubella (95%). The second dose of MMR is intended to produce immunity in those who did not respond to the first dose, but a very small percentage of people may not be protected even after a second dose.

and it is actually a live virus used. Although other vaccines dont always use a live virus.

midnightexpress · 27/05/2011 14:13

Hmm, don't know about that lilQueenie. Apparently in the French outbreak, 90-95% of those infected have been unvaccinated and of the remaining 5-10% almost all of them have not had the booster.

Dappylittlemomma · 27/05/2011 14:13

Donnie- 'who would want unecessary vaccinations'. Rubella and Mumps are not exactly completely unnecessary and unwanted vaccinations.

DoMeDon · 27/05/2011 14:13

DD hasn't had it - I'm not sure what to do now TBH. I only wanted to have the measles and felt she was too young to be exposed to 2 other vaccines at the same time.

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 27/05/2011 14:14

What Paisley said Grin

JBellingham · 27/05/2011 14:16

If you do not give your child your immunisation insurance, fine. If it gets measles don't complain when it gets damaged or broken.

frakyouveryverymuch · 27/05/2011 14:16

MMR is a weakened live viral vaccine but it's highly unlikely that a recently vaccinated child will transmit it, although if they're immunosuppressed for any reason they might develop the disease(s).

pooka · 27/05/2011 14:16

LiQieenie - surely if a child has had the first AND second injections of MMR or single vax it would be incredibly unusual/unlucky for them to get measles?

That's not really a reason to not vaccinate, is it? I mean, a child is significantly more likely to get measles if they haven't been vaccinated at all rather than if they have had both jabs. It's like saying "my child could still die if the car crashed and they were in a suitable child restraint, so I won't bother fitting car seats". Or "my child could still die if they hit their head falling off a bike while wearing a helmet, so I won't make him wear a bike helmet".

ThistleDoNicely · 27/05/2011 14:16

Uptake of MMR vaccine is 90%. I'm quite shocked 10% of parents would not get their child vaccinated. It has been proved safe so why would you leave your kids at risk?

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 27/05/2011 14:18

LilQ according to the NHS website the vaccine is live, but the virus is weakend and cannot infect other people.

DioneTheDiabolist · 27/05/2011 14:18

DoMeDon, if you want to get your DD the vaccination contact your GP and they will be very glad to arrange it.

LilQueenie · 27/05/2011 14:18

some kids cant have the vaccine. Those fighting cancer and some other diseases. Not to mention the few who have severe allergies.

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