Measles Outbreak?

[MoaningLisa]

I am sure you have all heard on the news that there has been an outbreak of measles.

Papers, Schools, Hv, Drs are saying if you or your child haven't had the vaccine(s) now would be a good time to get it done.

I cant help but think though that the parents who haven't and wont get their child vaccinated are putting their children at risk.

Aibu to think that its just bloody selfish and very daring to play with their own childs life?

17 posts in and the uneducated and misinformed (at best) are spouting their nonsense. Going to hide the thread before the rage consumes me. FFS.

10% - that's more than I thought.

No, some children can't have the vaccine, which is exactly why it's important for those who can to get it.

Exactly lilqueenie - that's why herd immunity is so important. Those who are immune suppressed for whatever reason are incredibly vulnerable from outbreaks such as this. At least my children can have the jab (ds2, 20 months old had his booster last week) - would be incredibly worried if they couldn't. I am thankful for the vaccination.

true about the nhs website but look a little deeper on others (american ones I cant find it sorry. Will try) and it does state if your immune system is compromised you can actually develop the disease from the vaccine and then risk passing it on. Rare that it happens though.

chippy47, people are not necessarily uneducated or misinformed because they disagree with you! If you have had your children vaccinated, and you believe this to be effective against contracting measles then you have nowt to worry about do you?

Because some people continue to believe that it isn't safe.

My Mum didn't allow me to get the MMR because she didn't believe it was 'safe' and 'natural' and all of the other bullshit that people continue to spout.

Then at age 6, I got Rubella and spent two months in bed recovering from it. I fell so far behind in school because of the time off, that I had to have special classes for ages to catch up. I remember the absolute misery and pain, and I will NEVER forgive my Mum for being so stupid.

I absolutely agree with you OP. This thread will kick off big time though.

we had letter home about this as there is a child in the school that is going through cancer treatment at the moment and is at great risk if she catches any of it so asking parents to be hyper viglant in sending in poorly child esp if they have had the jabs or to get child to have the jabs.

FGS your mum did what she thought was best and you hate her for it!

Kudos to the OP for starting this thread. I feel passionately about this.

Vaccinating protects not only the vaccinated child, but if enough children are vaccinated, it also protects children who are too young or too unwell to receive the vaccine.

Tragedies like this:

www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/02/17/3141165.htm

are heartbreaking and often avoidable.

I'm going to say it: it's selfish not to vaccinate your child. And usually a decision made without ever having seen a child suffer with whooping cough/measles/ rubella etc.

these threads can be educational though - would never have thought about herd immunity being important to protect those too vulnerable to be vaccinated.

manicbmc ; "If people hadn't believed the crap about the MMR causing autism (which has been completely discredited) then there wouldn't be an outbreak now"

My DD was born June 1998 and I know the study has been discredited now, but at the time she was a baby it had not been and was the height of discussion (it was published early 1998). We had to make a decision based on what was available then and, believe me, it was not one we made lightly. We decided not to vaccinate.

It does not give me any satisfaction to have been proved that we made the wrong choice - we thought we were doing the right thing and I am sure we were not the only ones.

Don't forget mumps! I had mumps aged 5 which then led to viral meningitis.

No LilQueenie, I don't 'hate' her, I just said I wouldn't 'forgive' her for making that decision. And it's true. Much of this resentment is due to the fact that she still believes what she did was the right thing, even though she saw how much I suffered.

My twins were born in 1994 when the research was going on. When the kids had their boosters there was all sorts of nonsense about concerning MMR and autism. I had many an argument with my mil at the time as she thought I shouldn't get the kids immunised as it would make my son's autism worse . I made an informed and logical decision about the immunisations too.

I had measles and german measles a total of SEVEN times in my childhood - I was unable to build any immunity whatsoever. :( Hours of fun playing join the dot though.

Wondered when this subject would come up here....

There was a lot of hype and mis-information over the MMR...and unfortunately it put a lot of people off having their children vaccinated.

The outbreak is an inevitable consequence.

for posters talking about herd immunity - often quoted as needing to be above 95% uptake to be inplace - how does this explain the recent outbreaks of measles in eg Saudi, where uptake is 98%+ (I believe - search recent ax threads for more info. I would link, but am on my phone, and recovering form an op, so searchign not top of my priority list...)

the 1998 paper, and any discussions post that also never recommended NOT vaccinating - instead, it recommended caution, and to use the singles options (which were easily available then, and in the past - not sure why this was not an opition for you, manicbmc?).

I agree with the op too.

Mumps is a recent vaccination though - since '88 I believe - because I didn't have it done, had mumps (as did many of my contemporaries) but we were supposed to be boosted with the MMR at secondary school. Horse bolted and all that...

Not in 1997 when my 2 had their boosters and I found it unnecessary anyway because I wasn't going to pay any heed to a piece of research that had a sample size of 12 children.

no mumps wasa round in the 70`s as my mum wouldnt let me have it as there was something wrong with it or linked to something,cant remember,was only one i never had done.

I don't blame parents for not having their children immunised when the papers were full of Immunisation=Autism stories, but now that it HAS been discredited, I don't understand why they don't get it done NOW.

It seems as though some people (understandably) thought it was the right thing to do and now this has been disproved they don't want to admit they were mistaken and continue to argue the point.

in 1997 singles jabs were readily available on the nhs, alongside the mmr.

it wasn't until late in 1998 (a good few months after teh paper was published) that they were withdrawn, inexplicably.

if you didn't want them, then that is fine. but they were available, and easily so.