Would you vote to re-join the EU in another referendum?

[GorgeousSpringtime]

Simple question. If there is another referendum to re-join the EU, will you be voting to re-join?

This isn't to have a go at anyone who supported Brexit, or who supported Remain, it's just a quick straw poll. Thank you.

If anyone is wondering, (or cares!) I think I will vote to re-join. (I won't say at this point what I voted for last time...)

@AlwaysExtraHot ,

‘Yes, it's a pity there were no economics specialists telling us in the lead-up what the ramifications were going to be ‘

You mean the same ones who claimed there wasn’t a problem with U.S housing in 2007 and thought tech was undervalued in 1999?!

I have zero faith in economists but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

I think it would be wise to closely examine what options may be available to us.

There is the EEA, there is the Single Market, there is this new fangled thing Canada is getting.

I don't think it should be a rejoin / stay out vote - precisely because we spent a decade working out what leave actually meant. And got bullshit like 'oven ready' as if that had any bloody meaning.

Do we want to spend a decade working out what rejoin means?

Perhaps we could work this out and have a clearly defined document which we either sign or don't sign. A document that is highly unlikely to look like the treaty we joined the EU on.

Before we decide to have a stupid vote about any of it.

The practicalities and detail really bloody matter. Did we learn nothing from the last decade about this?!

No, certainly not.
I would vote to leave, as I did last time.
So many reasons, already cited by pp. Our current position does not stop us working together with other European nations, just the same as Iceland and Norway manage it, without ever being part of the EU.

Impossible to tell. Should the EU allow us to apply to rejoin, there could possibly be many, many strings attached, some of which may not be to this country's advantage.

Completely agree. Brexit meant different things to different people, rejoining would mean the similar. Put the deal on the table and lets us vote either way, not voting for vague concepts.

Ah, I didn't know that new members have to adopt the Euro. Thanks.

I doubt that the EU would want us back or with the same deals as before. It would cost millions to re join.

I would be seriously pissed off if this happened as I gave up my future plans dude to Brexit and sold my home in Europe.
But yes, I'd vote to go back in.

I was really too young in 1999 to understand what was going on with dot-com. I did however spot 2008 a mile off, understood Brexit would be a car crash around NI and super rich wankers and I saw COVID coming before most.

In 2026 we have a fuck lot of issues all colliding at once which spell c-l-u-s-t-e-r-f-u-c-k. The BBC is barely reporting any of it and are massively watering it down.

Another idea of another referendum at this point in time, is beyond my comprehension in how it's being presented and not really getting much intelligent thought applied.

But I shouldnt really be surprised as only 7% of people voted at the last ref for reasons about the EU (that includes remainers!)

So yeah I might just bang my head against a brick wall until I end up hospitalised.

I remember an expert discussing the situation shortly after the result that in 10 years time we’d have a very similar position to the one, when had inside the EU. It’s been over 10 years on now and nothing could be further from the truth. So yes, I’d like to rejoin. And I now (because of brexit) have an EU passport.

This , squared !

I think that the lesson from last time is that a referendum isn’t suitable for this.

We have a parliamentary democracy. A manifesto commitment would be that the government intended to negotiate on our behalf to rejoin common market/EU (I have a strong preference for common market) and then, if they get into power, they make the decisions on the detail from there.

The populace aren’t expert enough to understand the detail.

Wrong again I'm afraid. No university for me, not even further education. Oh, and proudly working class. Making assumptions and judgements about a whole lump of people is exactly where Labour and other political parties have been going wrong for so long and how the Reform twats have managed to get a foot in the door.

Yes. Just on my one anecdote at work it’s massively increased our costs for no advantage at all. We still have to abide by eu rules but now pay much more and get no benefits as out of the single market.

Adopting the euro or not is a big deal though. So if that’s a maybe but likely then it’ll impact my view. Leaving it open to that isn’t enough.

This isn't strictly true tbh.

We would not meet the criteria to join the euro due to our national debt being too high.

We'd not get in for decades if they applied the rule.

There is actually an option out available even in the new terms where you can suspend this.

https://x.com/b_judah/status/2105302795855237593
See here for more details on this.

There's an actual article and everything.

Yes, I think most people would.

@EasternStandard ,

I didn’t mean leaving it open. I meant Burnham could choose which one in his manifesto, depending on his preference.

I said to dh ( jokingly ) that they should do a referendum to ask if we want a referendum.

So what?

Ok fair enough. I’d want to know beforehand.

@RedToothBrush ,

‘I did however spot 2008 a mile off, understood Brexit would be a car crash around NI and super rich wankers and I saw COVID coming before most.’

If you spotted 2008 ahead of time, I hope you are posting this from your private Caribbean island having been poured your second daiquiri of the day by your second butler! I was trading the markets in 2007 and it was incredibly eerie. Everything was priced to perfection and there was no volatility. It was like the sea going out before a tsunami. However, I used to voraciously read economic analysis and I remember 10 economists justified the housing credit bubble to every one who doubted it!

I remember your posts during Brexit! You were very right and I was very wrong-although I did vote to remain, I also had no idea of the cost of leaving.

Covid was just Maths. I know what an exponential curve looks like (unlike our Pm at the time!).

‘In 2026 we have a fuck lot of issues all colliding at once which spell c-l-u-s-t-e-r-f-u-c- The BBC is barely reporting any of it and are massively watering it down.’

Agreed, though not sure why you are singling out the BBC. Most of the issues are global anyway. We won’t do substantially better or worse than all other similar nations. France is having a tough time of it now-could be the start of another Euro crisis.

& Canada

I would like to re-join.

I would like a vote on the principle, then a second one on the terms before joining again. Might get better terms as a result.

Of course, brexit hurt the UK, which was already fairly poorly. It made no sense to leave the EU.