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sincerestwonders · Today 13:43

Any one else feel like this but I dunno why my life has been just so hard lately for me and my 17 1/2 year old daughter. Last year I felt completely different, this year I feel burnt out and just bored and unmotivated. I have a guy who keeps coming in and out my life he works abroad so he isnt a stable presence but I feel stuck and dunno if any of you have similar life experience or advice as that would be so useful.
My daughter has not been to school since age 8. I chose not to keep her in school because of some of the things we encountered in her school such as staff pinning kids down in isolation rooms as a punishment and like harming "bad" kids by restraining them in the classroom, which I did not want my young daughter to see or felt was appropriate.
She has been home educated since then. At the minute she has 2 gcses, a 9 in Spanish and 8 in computing/ICT. Her maths and english skills are quite subpar to be honest. She is a good speller, yet struggles with reading long books and guessing the "intention" of authors which is what a lot of GCSE is about. Her maths is reasonable and probably key stage 3 level, not the best but GCSE math standards are so high these days. In the last year she has done a cookery course, several language courses, business administration basics and we were asked to do an art course which she bloody hates and has no artistic talent really but we are 3/5 of the way through that and she just cant think of ideas and hates it and obviously wishes she was doing something else. The obvious thing to do next is driving, but the theory test I dont quite know how to study for it seen as I havent driven since I was in my 20s cos we live in an urban area where we can bus walk everywhere. The other thing I struggle with is deciding on the gold DOFE program. She has done it for 18 months, did all sections and loved the volunteering element. Its done all bits except the Expedition, and honestly how is a weeks walking, eating garbage and carrying a 20kg bag up a mountain useful to the development of a young person? This isnt the 1940s. We originally did this with a dofe open award center. She attended 2 training days. On the first one she was assigned to a team of 5 other girls, all of whom were friends from that posh arse Hills Road college in Cambridge. They ignored and excluded my already friendless daughter and walked ahead. My daughter is 5ft 4 70kg and is not unfit, she does swimming and dance, but no way can she walk 20 miles a day like they suggested with a back breaking Army bergen. The idiots said the expedition was to take place in summer. Considering the heatwaves we have had its a recipe for sun stroke, burns and nausea. On the second day she asked whether she could have a parent see her at a particular point of the day or night as she is high anxiety and gets sick when away overnight from parents she can stay at nanas house without us but it seems being away at night without parents presence is traumatic for her. She went to mendip activity center last year and being away led to panic attacks and a drinking episode. They said no,okay, but I dont think they care about her needs. The food is another troubling element. They suggested eating those gross ration pack boil in a bag meals. My daughter wont eat them preferring fresh foods, and wouldnt eat any with meat in them due to concern of quality. She would have to handle bottle gas, flames, putting up a tent, no contact even a mobile phone with parents, possible injury, carrying own excrement, managing herself miles from anywhere at 17 YEARS OLD what is this SAS basic training? We had her walk 10ks every week, every time her feet would begin to blister and bleed she has size 3 feet for context with the bag on so I decided to leave that centre and look at these expensive private expeditions on canoes but she wont do that either. This has led to a lot of arguments with me and her dad who the dad says stop pushing and she has done enough already. The final issue is she obviously doesnt want to go to uni next year but she just cant think of what job/career to do and seems to have lost interest in anything. Sorry to rant but any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

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Mirsine · Today 18:18

sincerestwonders · Today 14:13

Hills Road is for uni bound middle class snobs. You have to have like 8 gcses to get in.

Also, you need to take some responsibility for your attitude.

If you express this type of judgemental attitude around your daughter she will pick up on it, and it will do nothing for her self esteem or self worth.

I achieved 11 GCSE passes back in 2010. I went to a state school that was in special measures by Ofsted. Most of us came from council estates.

Please don’t insinuate that only “middle class snobs” can achieve multiple GCSE’s and get into colleges. Because you’re way off the mark. Way off.

Vulpini · Today 18:19

So do most kids. My child did. But as a parent you support them through it, teach them coping skills and ensure they continue their education (which also helps them learn coral social skills). I’m really sorry but you have failed your daughter.

FlowerUser · Today 18:20

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

I don't know how near Cambridge is to you, but there are two colleges she may enjoy.

Cambridge Regional College is based in Kings Hedges Road in Cambridge, and in California Road in Huntingdon.

I saw an alternative Learning Provision course here https://www.camre.ac.uk/courses/alternative-learning-provision-14-19/ You would need to apply now for next year as they only take a few Elective Home-Educated Pupils, and you need to be registered with the local authority as a home educator. This course offers

Functional Skills qualifications in English and Maths
Qualifications in Personal Development, Art, Sport, and Fitness.
Vocational sessions in areas such as Hair and Beauty, Construction, Catering and Hospitality.

Alternatively, looking at her qualifications, she only needs two GCSEs and a Welcome Day Visit to get onto this course - it's a level one course in media from the University of the Arts. It's a foundation for an Animation and Games Development, so I wondered if she would like that.
https://www.camre.ac.uk/course/ual-level-1-diploma-in-media/MG1MED/

Their full courses for 16+ are here - https://www.camre.ac.uk/16-courses/

Or she could go to the College of West Anglia based in Milton, Cambridge, * *where they have this Hummingbird course for people like your daughter - You have had negative school experiences and maybe have a diagnosis of PTSD alongside learning disability. You have no formal qualifications and therefore do not have the entry requirements for your chosen subjects but do have the academic ability. You are likely to have been home schooled and will have extreme anxiety about coming to college and will require a long transition with a big lead up to your chosen subject.
https://cwa.ac.uk/courses/inclusive-learning/hummingbird

This campus is where they also teach Equine Care and Dog Grooming, so it has lots of animals which she may like, and there is an open day in October https://cwa.ac.uk/news/events/event/253-open-evening-cambridge-campus-22nd-oct-2026

The Maths and English Functional Skills are taught at Kings Lynn and Wisbech, and not Cambridge, but maybe the Hummingbird course would be a good start.

They have a lot of information about student welfare as well, and it looks like they take student support very seriously. I hope you find something for her.

Open Evening - Cambridge campus, 22nd Oct 2026

You will be able to: Explore - our state-of-the-art campuses and industry standard facilities. Meet - our tutors and students and get detailed course information. Chat - with our careers team - get careers information, advice and guidance to help...

https://cwa.ac.uk/news/events/event/253-open-evening-cambridge-campus-22nd-oct-2026

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TheOwlShootAtNight · Today 18:22

sincerestwonders · Today 14:00

Everyone says I'm a bad, overprotective parent and Im sick of it. I think taking my daughter out of the pressure and anxiety of school was the best thing to do given circumstance she has had a comprehensive home education to 16 and has done some specialist courses. I am aware she needs more of a social life but she has suffered high anxiety as a kid around school, puberty, her emotions, extreme pressure and demand.

You failed your daughter.

OsfameronTanamoril · Today 18:23

How nice of you @FlowerUser to find all that useful information.

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myappletreeisladen · Today 18:26

Norberta · Today 18:10

I don’t want this to sound unkind but this post was a relentless stream of self pity and excuses… I think as a society we need to pull ourselves together a bit. Life is not fair or easy. Darwinism lays it out plain and simple. For your daughter to become a successful productive and self fulfilled member of society she needs to be resilient and that needs to come from you!

Exactly this. Well said.

Constantrunner · Today 18:27

MiddleAgedDread · Today 14:11

slight aside but are there no checks on parents who home "educate"? Given that childminders get Ofsted inspections does no one check up on the people who are failing to educate their kids?

No, not meaningful checks. The parent just writes a basic report every year.

FlowerUser · Today 18:28

OsfameronTanamoril · Today 18:23

How nice of you @FlowerUser to find all that useful information.

Thank you.

I think the OP has faced some challenges and is really asking for support here. And while I do understand the comments about her not setting her daughter up for adult life, I don't think they are helpful.

What is done is done. Her daughter is in the situation she finds herself in and I thought I would see if there was anything to help the OP.

sincerestwonders · Today 18:29

Thank you FlowerUser

OP posts:
MiddleAgedDread · Today 18:29

Constantrunner · Today 18:27

No, not meaningful checks. The parent just writes a basic report every year.

This in itself is pretty shocking!
so many kids must be falling through the gap and being failed

Vulpini · Today 18:30

sincerestwonders · Today 14:28

She has quite a few hobbies: used to enjoy making her own magazines and comics, blogging, baking etc. We used to have a dog which she happily trained and walked most days. She now seems to have a passion for Languages

All hobbies that she does alone/with you. So not making any friends. Her lack of socialisation really will impact her considerably for the rest of her life. Did you really not consider this?

OhCrumbsWhereNow · Today 18:30

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

Yes.
Mine is severely dyslexic and didn't learn to read or write until age 8. Massive struggles with syntax, punctuation and spelling.

They still managed a 5 in English Lang and Lit at GCSE.

You need to find a 6th form college where your daughter can do a L2 course and sit Maths and English. There are plenty that are still enrolling kids now for this year.

Many have much better Learning Support than schools do.

Constantrunner · Today 18:32

Functional maths and English is for people whose skills mean they cannot pass the GCSE. I would try and up skill her to pass those first.
By the way GCSE English isn't about guessing the authors intention. It's about reading comprehension. Simply being able to read is not enough. You have to understand what you are reading

canklesmctacotits · Today 18:33

If this thread is real, I'm just....shocked. Never have I read of a mother and her children so defensively disconnected from the real world. Your neglect of your children's education borders on abusive in the UK. You've deliberately denied them an education fit for their ages. Your daughter has 5, maybe 6 more years before her pre-frontal cortex has finished developing. By then, in order to get by in the world without having to rely on a man or her wits, she will need qualifications, life skills, social skills, emotional resilience, loosening ties to her mother...she's just been coasting since 8yo. All those prime years wasted getting a Spanish GCSE and an ICT GCSE, not even basic maths or English....and all because you didn't appreciate some of the behaviour in one school.

This surely HAS to be about you. Why have you done this to your children? There are millions, billions of parents around the world who would chew their arms off for the opportunities your children have had available to them for free :(

Hatty65 · Today 18:34

sincerestwonders · Today 17:17

This school was back in 2014 before dbs checking existed

Utter rubbish. I've taught for 30 years. You always needed an Enhanced DBS check. It was called a CRB but was essentially the same thing.

Constantrunner · Today 18:40

canklesmctacotits · Today 18:33

If this thread is real, I'm just....shocked. Never have I read of a mother and her children so defensively disconnected from the real world. Your neglect of your children's education borders on abusive in the UK. You've deliberately denied them an education fit for their ages. Your daughter has 5, maybe 6 more years before her pre-frontal cortex has finished developing. By then, in order to get by in the world without having to rely on a man or her wits, she will need qualifications, life skills, social skills, emotional resilience, loosening ties to her mother...she's just been coasting since 8yo. All those prime years wasted getting a Spanish GCSE and an ICT GCSE, not even basic maths or English....and all because you didn't appreciate some of the behaviour in one school.

This surely HAS to be about you. Why have you done this to your children? There are millions, billions of parents around the world who would chew their arms off for the opportunities your children have had available to them for free :(

Just to say the stuff about pre frontal cores is not true. The authors of the original scientific research are horrified at how the media misrepresent their research. Your pre frontal cortex continues to develop.
What is true is that the daughter needs a lot of support to plug her considerable learning gaps.

LittleGreenDuck · Today 18:43

Has she done the residential part of Gold DofE? What sort of thing did she do and how did she get on with that?

sincerestwonders · Today 18:44

For the residential we did nottingham trent university open week and I could go with her to classes and stay in her room

OP posts:
BigYellowBus · Today 18:45

FlowerUser · Today 18:20

I don't know how near Cambridge is to you, but there are two colleges she may enjoy.

Cambridge Regional College is based in Kings Hedges Road in Cambridge, and in California Road in Huntingdon.

I saw an alternative Learning Provision course here https://www.camre.ac.uk/courses/alternative-learning-provision-14-19/ You would need to apply now for next year as they only take a few Elective Home-Educated Pupils, and you need to be registered with the local authority as a home educator. This course offers

Functional Skills qualifications in English and Maths
Qualifications in Personal Development, Art, Sport, and Fitness.
Vocational sessions in areas such as Hair and Beauty, Construction, Catering and Hospitality.

Alternatively, looking at her qualifications, she only needs two GCSEs and a Welcome Day Visit to get onto this course - it's a level one course in media from the University of the Arts. It's a foundation for an Animation and Games Development, so I wondered if she would like that.
https://www.camre.ac.uk/course/ual-level-1-diploma-in-media/MG1MED/

Their full courses for 16+ are here - https://www.camre.ac.uk/16-courses/

Or she could go to the College of West Anglia based in Milton, Cambridge, * *where they have this Hummingbird course for people like your daughter - You have had negative school experiences and maybe have a diagnosis of PTSD alongside learning disability. You have no formal qualifications and therefore do not have the entry requirements for your chosen subjects but do have the academic ability. You are likely to have been home schooled and will have extreme anxiety about coming to college and will require a long transition with a big lead up to your chosen subject.
https://cwa.ac.uk/courses/inclusive-learning/hummingbird

This campus is where they also teach Equine Care and Dog Grooming, so it has lots of animals which she may like, and there is an open day in October https://cwa.ac.uk/news/events/event/253-open-evening-cambridge-campus-22nd-oct-2026

The Maths and English Functional Skills are taught at Kings Lynn and Wisbech, and not Cambridge, but maybe the Hummingbird course would be a good start.

They have a lot of information about student welfare as well, and it looks like they take student support very seriously. I hope you find something for her.

This sounds absolutely perfect

Vixxxs · Today 18:46

sincerestwonders · Today 13:43

Any one else feel like this but I dunno why my life has been just so hard lately for me and my 17 1/2 year old daughter. Last year I felt completely different, this year I feel burnt out and just bored and unmotivated. I have a guy who keeps coming in and out my life he works abroad so he isnt a stable presence but I feel stuck and dunno if any of you have similar life experience or advice as that would be so useful.
My daughter has not been to school since age 8. I chose not to keep her in school because of some of the things we encountered in her school such as staff pinning kids down in isolation rooms as a punishment and like harming "bad" kids by restraining them in the classroom, which I did not want my young daughter to see or felt was appropriate.
She has been home educated since then. At the minute she has 2 gcses, a 9 in Spanish and 8 in computing/ICT. Her maths and english skills are quite subpar to be honest. She is a good speller, yet struggles with reading long books and guessing the "intention" of authors which is what a lot of GCSE is about. Her maths is reasonable and probably key stage 3 level, not the best but GCSE math standards are so high these days. In the last year she has done a cookery course, several language courses, business administration basics and we were asked to do an art course which she bloody hates and has no artistic talent really but we are 3/5 of the way through that and she just cant think of ideas and hates it and obviously wishes she was doing something else. The obvious thing to do next is driving, but the theory test I dont quite know how to study for it seen as I havent driven since I was in my 20s cos we live in an urban area where we can bus walk everywhere. The other thing I struggle with is deciding on the gold DOFE program. She has done it for 18 months, did all sections and loved the volunteering element. Its done all bits except the Expedition, and honestly how is a weeks walking, eating garbage and carrying a 20kg bag up a mountain useful to the development of a young person? This isnt the 1940s. We originally did this with a dofe open award center. She attended 2 training days. On the first one she was assigned to a team of 5 other girls, all of whom were friends from that posh arse Hills Road college in Cambridge. They ignored and excluded my already friendless daughter and walked ahead. My daughter is 5ft 4 70kg and is not unfit, she does swimming and dance, but no way can she walk 20 miles a day like they suggested with a back breaking Army bergen. The idiots said the expedition was to take place in summer. Considering the heatwaves we have had its a recipe for sun stroke, burns and nausea. On the second day she asked whether she could have a parent see her at a particular point of the day or night as she is high anxiety and gets sick when away overnight from parents she can stay at nanas house without us but it seems being away at night without parents presence is traumatic for her. She went to mendip activity center last year and being away led to panic attacks and a drinking episode. They said no,okay, but I dont think they care about her needs. The food is another troubling element. They suggested eating those gross ration pack boil in a bag meals. My daughter wont eat them preferring fresh foods, and wouldnt eat any with meat in them due to concern of quality. She would have to handle bottle gas, flames, putting up a tent, no contact even a mobile phone with parents, possible injury, carrying own excrement, managing herself miles from anywhere at 17 YEARS OLD what is this SAS basic training? We had her walk 10ks every week, every time her feet would begin to blister and bleed she has size 3 feet for context with the bag on so I decided to leave that centre and look at these expensive private expeditions on canoes but she wont do that either. This has led to a lot of arguments with me and her dad who the dad says stop pushing and she has done enough already. The final issue is she obviously doesnt want to go to uni next year but she just cant think of what job/career to do and seems to have lost interest in anything. Sorry to rant but any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Life has got extremely hard for everyone over the past few years but reading your post exhausted me! Your poor daughter, like someone else said you have taken away her main social outlet by homeschooling her, maybe a different school if u didn’t like the one she was at and making her do activities that she clearly hates or struggles with isn’t the answer, also without sounding harsh all I’m reading is excuses with things you think are horrible which has clearly rubbed off on your daughter. Maybe do something with her in a group with other mums and daughters? And, if she doesn’t need to drive then I wouldn’t bother, fuel prices and insurance prices are astronomical! And it’s so bloody stressful!! I wish I lived somewhere where I didn’t have to drive, I would be so better off financially and mentally lol

67789d · Today 18:50

sincerestwonders · Today 17:00

She has
Grade 9 Spanish Gcse (2026)
Grade 8 ICT gcse (2026)
150hr Data entry diploma(2025)
Dofe gold 4 out of 5 parts
18 months volunteering twice a week

Well done, those are great scores.

But now is the time to get her into 6th form/college/ apprenticeship before she shuts down and struggles even longer

fruitbrewhaha · Today 18:51

What have you actually been doing for the last 10 years? 2 GCSEs at age 18 is not going to get your daughter a job. 18 year olds with a full complement of passes at gcse and 3 a levels are finding it hard to get work.

So to answer your question about whether life will continue to be crappy I can confidently tell you that yes, for your daughter it will, you have denied her an education.

Hopefully you will take on the advice here and send her to college so she can catch up in the next few years. Then maybe less crappy all around.

Siriusmuggle · Today 18:53

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

It’s a whole lot easier if it’s taught by an actual teacher, ideally in a school. I usually err on the side of live and let live but by denying your child an education you’ve limited her future to an awful degree. I’m not often lost for words, but a child with no SEN should be way in excess of two GCSE’s at age 17. You’ve shrunk het world to an unacceptable degree I’m afraid.

JazzyJelly · Today 18:56

Not what I was expecting from the title!

Send your poor kids to college/school, OP. The home ed experiment has failed. I can assure you, your 15 year old son won't be beaten up by his teachers, and whilst incredibly difficult, your daughter will start to learn some social skills.

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