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Is life always this crappy

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sincerestwonders · Today 13:43

Any one else feel like this but I dunno why my life has been just so hard lately for me and my 17 1/2 year old daughter. Last year I felt completely different, this year I feel burnt out and just bored and unmotivated. I have a guy who keeps coming in and out my life he works abroad so he isnt a stable presence but I feel stuck and dunno if any of you have similar life experience or advice as that would be so useful.
My daughter has not been to school since age 8. I chose not to keep her in school because of some of the things we encountered in her school such as staff pinning kids down in isolation rooms as a punishment and like harming "bad" kids by restraining them in the classroom, which I did not want my young daughter to see or felt was appropriate.
She has been home educated since then. At the minute she has 2 gcses, a 9 in Spanish and 8 in computing/ICT. Her maths and english skills are quite subpar to be honest. She is a good speller, yet struggles with reading long books and guessing the "intention" of authors which is what a lot of GCSE is about. Her maths is reasonable and probably key stage 3 level, not the best but GCSE math standards are so high these days. In the last year she has done a cookery course, several language courses, business administration basics and we were asked to do an art course which she bloody hates and has no artistic talent really but we are 3/5 of the way through that and she just cant think of ideas and hates it and obviously wishes she was doing something else. The obvious thing to do next is driving, but the theory test I dont quite know how to study for it seen as I havent driven since I was in my 20s cos we live in an urban area where we can bus walk everywhere. The other thing I struggle with is deciding on the gold DOFE program. She has done it for 18 months, did all sections and loved the volunteering element. Its done all bits except the Expedition, and honestly how is a weeks walking, eating garbage and carrying a 20kg bag up a mountain useful to the development of a young person? This isnt the 1940s. We originally did this with a dofe open award center. She attended 2 training days. On the first one she was assigned to a team of 5 other girls, all of whom were friends from that posh arse Hills Road college in Cambridge. They ignored and excluded my already friendless daughter and walked ahead. My daughter is 5ft 4 70kg and is not unfit, she does swimming and dance, but no way can she walk 20 miles a day like they suggested with a back breaking Army bergen. The idiots said the expedition was to take place in summer. Considering the heatwaves we have had its a recipe for sun stroke, burns and nausea. On the second day she asked whether she could have a parent see her at a particular point of the day or night as she is high anxiety and gets sick when away overnight from parents she can stay at nanas house without us but it seems being away at night without parents presence is traumatic for her. She went to mendip activity center last year and being away led to panic attacks and a drinking episode. They said no,okay, but I dont think they care about her needs. The food is another troubling element. They suggested eating those gross ration pack boil in a bag meals. My daughter wont eat them preferring fresh foods, and wouldnt eat any with meat in them due to concern of quality. She would have to handle bottle gas, flames, putting up a tent, no contact even a mobile phone with parents, possible injury, carrying own excrement, managing herself miles from anywhere at 17 YEARS OLD what is this SAS basic training? We had her walk 10ks every week, every time her feet would begin to blister and bleed she has size 3 feet for context with the bag on so I decided to leave that centre and look at these expensive private expeditions on canoes but she wont do that either. This has led to a lot of arguments with me and her dad who the dad says stop pushing and she has done enough already. The final issue is she obviously doesnt want to go to uni next year but she just cant think of what job/career to do and seems to have lost interest in anything. Sorry to rant but any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

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Lacksie · Today 17:45

sincerestwonders · Today 14:00

Everyone says I'm a bad, overprotective parent and Im sick of it. I think taking my daughter out of the pressure and anxiety of school was the best thing to do given circumstance she has had a comprehensive home education to 16 and has done some specialist courses. I am aware she needs more of a social life but she has suffered high anxiety as a kid around school, puberty, her emotions, extreme pressure and demand.

How can you claim she's had a comprehensive home education when she's 17.5 and doesn't even have gcse maths and English?? You also say she has poor social skills and no friends.

beaglescurleduplikebagels · Today 17:47

sincerestwonders · Today 17:24

Yes, I have a 15 year old. At 17 he will take 2 gcses in subjects he enjoys and we will see about maths and english

You are abusing and neglecting your kids. I genuinely hope someone reports you.

shhhh2025 · Today 17:48

sincerestwonders · Today 14:00

Everyone says I'm a bad, overprotective parent and Im sick of it. I think taking my daughter out of the pressure and anxiety of school was the best thing to do given circumstance she has had a comprehensive home education to 16 and has done some specialist courses. I am aware she needs more of a social life but she has suffered high anxiety as a kid around school, puberty, her emotions, extreme pressure and demand.

She hasn’t had a comprehensive education at all.

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SomeoneIsWrongOnTheInternet · Today 17:49

If your dd has managed 8 in a foreign language and ‘-what was it? - a similar high grade in computing I would hold out good hopes for her being able to obtain at least pass grades in her native language and in maths. Get her on to the course, and similarly with your ds. Maths and English are NOT optional. Ring Monday.

Also perhaps consider the bronze or silver D of E rather than jumping into gold? Also sounds perfectly achievable.

EverythingElseIsTaken · Today 17:49

shhhh2025 · Today 17:48

She hasn’t had a comprehensive education at all.

Barely an education of any sort let alone a comprehensive one!

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

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HermioneWeasley · Today 17:51

sincerestwonders · Today 17:24

Yes, I have a 15 year old. At 17 he will take 2 gcses in subjects he enjoys and we will see about maths and english

Dear god, have you learned nothing from the mistakes you’ve made with your daughter? Get your son into a school and get him enrolled for normal GCSEs

SomeoneIsWrongOnTheInternet · Today 17:51

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

She’s managed learning the basics of a foreign language.

LIZS · Today 17:52

sincerestwonders · Today 17:24

Yes, I have a 15 year old. At 17 he will take 2 gcses in subjects he enjoys and we will see about maths and english

So you are not going to learn from the issues dd now faces to avoid replicating the problems for dc2? It is a competitive world out there and by acting this way you are making it all the more worrying and difficult for them to negotiate as adults, not protecting them.

beaglescurleduplikebagels · Today 17:53

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

It's not. HTH.

EverythingElseIsTaken · Today 17:53

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

Well my SEN son with complex issues and a mental age below that of his peers managed a pass! But he went to school so he had a huge advantage….

ThatJadeLion · Today 17:53

Enrol her in college asap.

SmellyNelliey · Today 17:54

How are you passing yearly LA reports op?
I also home educate my children, they are very well rounded children, they are socialised and we do maths,english and science daily at different levels for each child,we also learning history and geography&Spanish we visit lots of museums,we drive to place to actually look at things live rivers,streams,valleys ect we travel alot to different counties.
We use
Reading Eggs
Mathseeds
Ttrockstars
Bbc bitesize
Dulingo
IXL
And the library is a great place for resources.
These are just a few things we learn with my dd12 was part of a pantomime last Christmas.
Home educated children are suppose to thrive ✨️

Samewrinklesnewname · Today 17:54

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

Well it’s going to be hard if you’ve not been taught the course which it very much sounds is the case with your poor daughter…..tens of thousands of people manage it literally every year.

Mazanna123 · Today 17:56

How did she get on with her Bronze D of E? Assuming you didn't launch straight into gold.

Waitingfordoggo · Today 17:56

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

Oh come on, you’ve jumped the shark now 😂

I imagine the vast majority of people responding to your thread have an English GCSE. Many of us also have children who have English GCSEs. So yes, we do know how ‘hard’ GCSE English is. And GCSE Maths, and a number of other GCSEs. And A Levels. And Degrees. They are varying degrees of hard. They are often harder for people with learning difficulties or additional needs. They are also hard for people who have not received an adequate education.

BunkBedsArePeopleShelves · Today 17:56

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

Not very.

What made you think you could homeschool until 18 if GCSE English is beyond you?

HermioneWeasley · Today 17:56

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

I have it, my DP has it and I’ve had two children sit GCSEs.

it’s a basic requirement.

it’s hard to get a 9, it’s not hard to pass.

why are your expectations for your children so low?

Eigen · Today 17:56

EverythingElseIsTaken · Today 17:49

Barely an education of any sort let alone a comprehensive one!

Agreed, what a poor kid. I feel so sorry for her. No wonder she has no confidence.

Harrysmummy246 · Today 17:57

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

Yes, most of us do having taken it. Some of us have also supported SEND learners as TAs and or tutors....

Snowstorm25 · Today 17:57

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

Oh my gosh surely this is a wind up now with the way you’re continuing to respond. Own that you’ve messed up, take responsibility and stop acting like the whole world is against you.

These are your children - please finally do what’s right for them!

LIZS · Today 17:58

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

It really isn't for a typical motivated teen, especially one who understands the grammar of a foreign language.

i assume the volunteering and cookery was done for her D of E? Useful but nothing special in the wider world. Unfortunately she is an outsider because you made her one, did you join any HE groups?

sincerestwonders · Today 17:58

June 2026 daughter wont go into the exam hall. Daughter cried all through GCSE written exam. Its hard. She got 190/200 marks on whole exam.

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beaglescurleduplikebagels · Today 17:58

ThatJadeLion · Today 17:53

Enrol her in college asap.

She won't get into college, she has no education.

SometimesTheIntrusiveThoughtsWin · Today 17:58

sincerestwonders · Today 17:51

Do any of you know how hard Gcse english is.

Yes. Yes I do. Having hauled both DC through it. (DC1 - absolutely not his thing dyslexic and ASD but he got there). Nobody had any fun - but they got there. They can do whatever they want because they have got it.

It taught DC1 resilience and how to work hard. He had 8s and 9s in all maths, science and humanities. But struggled with English and MFL - both of which he got 5s. But it showed him that with hard work he could get what he needed.

Her future choices will be easier if she has a GCSE in English Language.