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Is life always this crappy

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sincerestwonders · Yesterday 13:43

Any one else feel like this but I dunno why my life has been just so hard lately for me and my 17 1/2 year old daughter. Last year I felt completely different, this year I feel burnt out and just bored and unmotivated. I have a guy who keeps coming in and out my life he works abroad so he isnt a stable presence but I feel stuck and dunno if any of you have similar life experience or advice as that would be so useful.
My daughter has not been to school since age 8. I chose not to keep her in school because of some of the things we encountered in her school such as staff pinning kids down in isolation rooms as a punishment and like harming "bad" kids by restraining them in the classroom, which I did not want my young daughter to see or felt was appropriate.
She has been home educated since then. At the minute she has 2 gcses, a 9 in Spanish and 8 in computing/ICT. Her maths and english skills are quite subpar to be honest. She is a good speller, yet struggles with reading long books and guessing the "intention" of authors which is what a lot of GCSE is about. Her maths is reasonable and probably key stage 3 level, not the best but GCSE math standards are so high these days. In the last year she has done a cookery course, several language courses, business administration basics and we were asked to do an art course which she bloody hates and has no artistic talent really but we are 3/5 of the way through that and she just cant think of ideas and hates it and obviously wishes she was doing something else. The obvious thing to do next is driving, but the theory test I dont quite know how to study for it seen as I havent driven since I was in my 20s cos we live in an urban area where we can bus walk everywhere. The other thing I struggle with is deciding on the gold DOFE program. She has done it for 18 months, did all sections and loved the volunteering element. Its done all bits except the Expedition, and honestly how is a weeks walking, eating garbage and carrying a 20kg bag up a mountain useful to the development of a young person? This isnt the 1940s. We originally did this with a dofe open award center. She attended 2 training days. On the first one she was assigned to a team of 5 other girls, all of whom were friends from that posh arse Hills Road college in Cambridge. They ignored and excluded my already friendless daughter and walked ahead. My daughter is 5ft 4 70kg and is not unfit, she does swimming and dance, but no way can she walk 20 miles a day like they suggested with a back breaking Army bergen. The idiots said the expedition was to take place in summer. Considering the heatwaves we have had its a recipe for sun stroke, burns and nausea. On the second day she asked whether she could have a parent see her at a particular point of the day or night as she is high anxiety and gets sick when away overnight from parents she can stay at nanas house without us but it seems being away at night without parents presence is traumatic for her. She went to mendip activity center last year and being away led to panic attacks and a drinking episode. They said no,okay, but I dont think they care about her needs. The food is another troubling element. They suggested eating those gross ration pack boil in a bag meals. My daughter wont eat them preferring fresh foods, and wouldnt eat any with meat in them due to concern of quality. She would have to handle bottle gas, flames, putting up a tent, no contact even a mobile phone with parents, possible injury, carrying own excrement, managing herself miles from anywhere at 17 YEARS OLD what is this SAS basic training? We had her walk 10ks every week, every time her feet would begin to blister and bleed she has size 3 feet for context with the bag on so I decided to leave that centre and look at these expensive private expeditions on canoes but she wont do that either. This has led to a lot of arguments with me and her dad who the dad says stop pushing and she has done enough already. The final issue is she obviously doesnt want to go to uni next year but she just cant think of what job/career to do and seems to have lost interest in anything. Sorry to rant but any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

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MissingMeadow · Yesterday 17:32

Hmm I'm suspicious about this thread but ll assume that it's real and ask you how you think you have done as a parent.

Do you think you have done a great job and provided well for your children?

Jamlighter · Yesterday 17:32

great spelling there! Cant edit!

SquidgyPudge · Yesterday 17:32

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:28

A 7 year old lies on the floor of a room the size of a cupboard covered in bruises. This is a punishment for refusing to do maths or PE. The child is locked in the room for hours. The staff watch the child through the slit window in a door with a 1 way lock.
This is a normal UK state school. SEE WHY I HOME ED?

Which school was this? You are saying that a 7 year old was beaten so badly by a teacher they were bruised and then they were thrown into a cupboard for hours for not doing maths or PE? In a state school? And nothing happened? The child's parents didn't call the police?

No. That did not happen.

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sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:32

Have any of you seen whitefield school in london. The abuse of children by staff was on the news. Sadly it does exist

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Babybirdmum · Yesterday 17:33

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:29

Cuz she doesnt have the "perfect" straight white teeth of the hills road kids, hers are natural.

Well anything that makes someone a target for bullies, if fixable, why not help them? Braces are so common, it’s not like she needs a nose job. We live in a very superficial society nowadays whether we like it or not so making sure she looks well kempt is unfortunately the bare minimum. My BIL has very bad teeth from years of not brushing them as well as crooked teeth and a guest at my wedding asked if he’d been a drug addict.

SquidgyPudge · Yesterday 17:33

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:24

Yes, I have a 15 year old. At 17 he will take 2 gcses in subjects he enjoys and we will see about maths and english

Why did he not go to school?

babyproblems · Yesterday 17:34

I would honestly say that she needs to attend college; now. As in start next week. She can start at any time.

She won’t forgive you when she grows up if you do not act now to give her a better foundation for life.

Ypu need to give her the wider world, not shut her out of it. Kindly I suspect you have SEN actually; I can’t understand your perspective or motivations for the choices that you have made.

Where is her dad? Any other family?
Ok you didn’t like the school; you could have just changed schools. Home education was a mistake and you need to play serious catch up now…

You said you ‘need to work on her emotions’ before she can begin college. Forget this - she isn’t 5. She is old enough to feel and experience her emotions and let life happen.
You must let her go; firstly to college- otherwise she will be stuck in life and never forgive you.

myappletreeisladen · Yesterday 17:34

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:28

A 7 year old lies on the floor of a room the size of a cupboard covered in bruises. This is a punishment for refusing to do maths or PE. The child is locked in the room for hours. The staff watch the child through the slit window in a door with a 1 way lock.
This is a normal UK state school. SEE WHY I HOME ED?

No, this is not the case with any school, I’m calling BS on this. Even if it were true, which I highly doubt, there would still have been other schools available and investigations into what happened.

Maisy7 · Yesterday 17:35

I can't believe this post by OP can be true...
How is someone in this day and age able to be so neglectful towards their children.
How will they survive in such a competitive world, where it is all about education, socialisation, dreams, achievements, wanting to have goals and success.
One thing I am proud of so much is what my girls have achieved in their lives, without their education and extra-curricular activities they wouldn't have become such high achievers.

WishIStudiedScience · Yesterday 17:35

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:11

#givemesteel

You should have seen that school. A "normal" school where they treat kids like animals. The government need to DBS check all school staff and highly regulate methods of punishment of children.

This can't be serious.

All school staff, visitors and anyone associated with schools are DBS checked and have been for decades.

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:35

Her birth father comes ecery other weekend. He is no use i divorced him. My current partner has a job in Germany till at least 2028. Im sorry but we couldnt do the paperwork to go over there

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EverythingElseIsTaken · Yesterday 17:35

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:17

This school was back in 2014 before dbs checking existed

Before DBS it was called CRB. Different name but still comprehensive checking (nothing is infallible admittedly). I had to have a Criminal Records Bureau check just to volunteer in school let alone to be employed (as I am now).

I’m afraid it sounds like you have caused a lot of your daughter’s issues.

Gold DofE is TOUGH, it’s meant to be. But it is entirely possible with the right mindset & equipment. It is NOT compulsory or essential.

NamechangeRugby · Yesterday 17:35

Re Driving Theory - there are Apps you can download to a mobile and practice all the questions.

Your daughter has done fantastically in Spanish. To do that through independent study is amazing.

Hopefully she might be ready to enroll in a college course to get her GCSE Maths and English. Company would be lovely for her.

Waitingfordoggo · Yesterday 17:37

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:28

A 7 year old lies on the floor of a room the size of a cupboard covered in bruises. This is a punishment for refusing to do maths or PE. The child is locked in the room for hours. The staff watch the child through the slit window in a door with a 1 way lock.
This is a normal UK state school. SEE WHY I HOME ED?

I’m assuming you made a report to the police? What was the outcome of the investigation?

Harrysmummy246 · Yesterday 17:37

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:32

Have any of you seen whitefield school in london. The abuse of children by staff was on the news. Sadly it does exist

I thought you said she has no SEN?

And you're in Cambridge. Not London

Story has more holes than a colander

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:37

Namechangerugby
Thank you
I will phone peterborough fe tonight

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sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:38

She didnt go to whitefield school just this was one of the schools the media could be bothered to report the fact the schools abused children.

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Bababear987 · Yesterday 17:38

OP stop talking rubbish

OsfameronTanamoril · Yesterday 17:39

myappletreeisladen · Yesterday 17:34

No, this is not the case with any school, I’m calling BS on this. Even if it were true, which I highly doubt, there would still have been other schools available and investigations into what happened.

I just Googled The Whitefield School in London. OP is right on that. SEN and autistic children were locked up in padded cells. There was a whole scandal and investigation.
However OP, did you not think to move your DD, if she experienced this? Or considered your DD may have SEN?
All schools aren't like this.

TeenLifeMum · Yesterday 17:40

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:17

This school was back in 2014 before dbs checking existed

I really don’t think I believe this post. My mum worked in schools in the 1990s and I did from 2009-2012, I was dbs checked and my mum was similarly checked (might have had a different name) so you’re talking nonsense.

If school was that bad, you were right to pull her out, but you find a new school. You’ve failed your daughter and created anxiety.

Picking up other bits - 5’4” and 70kg - this is overweight (I know because it describes me at 44 with 3 dc and a love of wine and chocolate). I could do the dofe walk though so an 18yo should be able to. You need to realise you are a massive part of the problem holding your dc back and wrapping her in cotton wool. I’m so angry this can happen.

OsfameronTanamoril · Yesterday 17:41

Oh hang on, now you say your DD didn't go to Whitefield?
This is mad, if true. It's like not allowing your DD to cross the road because someone once got run over 10 years ago.

Waitingfordoggo · Yesterday 17:42

Re the Driving Theory Test- my children both studied for these using apps and online resources with no help or input from me whatsoever. I let them get on with it, they sat the tests and passed them. These are the sort of things that many (most?) 17 year-olds are/should be capable of doing without support.

Snowstorm25 · Yesterday 17:42

I’m not quite sure what I’m reading here. I mean you can’t turn back time, but I haven’t once seen you take any responsibility for the fact you and your daughter are in this situation because of your actions. No one has done this to you.

Yes, absolutely right to have concerns if you felt there were things happening at her primary school that shouldn’t be. Did you raise them? Did you report it? Did other parents feel the same?

What I can’t get my head around is why keep her away from high school as well? Don’t get me wrong - plenty of people home school brilliantly, but given the results she has it doesn’t sound like it was for you. That situation really has set her back hugely both educationally and socially.

You also sound incredibly bitter when it comes to the “posh arse school”. Pretty offensive by the way to generalise like that whether true or not. People don’t have 8 GCSEs because they are “middle class snobs” - they have 8 GCSEs because that’s the normal expected number of GCSEs that kids get all over the country, from all kinds of backgrounds and whether they’re educated at home or in school. They were taught what they needed to know and they worked hard.

As I said you can’t turn back time and the response you’re getting is harsh because it should be, so I think you need to own this, admit that your choices and the way you have raised your daughter have led to this situation, and work out what you can do now to give her the best chance to turn things around and thrive in the future, instead of what you seem to be doing now which is blaming the primary school, the system, the DofE, and posh people.

You can prove that you’re a good mum by owning the situation and supporting your daughter now instead of just thinking “life is crappy”.

Eigen · Yesterday 17:42

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 14:13

Hills Road is for uni bound middle class snobs. You have to have like 8 gcses to get in.

As a former attendee of Hills Road I’m surprised, with only 8 GCSEs as the bar they must be letting all sorts of riffraff in these days!

EverythingElseIsTaken · Yesterday 17:45

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:28

A 7 year old lies on the floor of a room the size of a cupboard covered in bruises. This is a punishment for refusing to do maths or PE. The child is locked in the room for hours. The staff watch the child through the slit window in a door with a 1 way lock.
This is a normal UK state school. SEE WHY I HOME ED?

I work in school. I’ve worked in several schools. I’ve volunteered in schools. I am a school governor. I have two children who have been through the education system.

No “normal UK state school” is as you describe. If a child is unhappy at a particular school then you find another. Unless you live very rurally then there are always plenty of schools.

I know actual qualified teachers who say they would never attempt to home school as they acknowledge they don’t have the knowledge for the whole balanced curriculum once into KS3 and beyond, not to mention the important social development. You’ve done your children a huge disservice.

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