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Is life always this crappy

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sincerestwonders · Yesterday 13:43

Any one else feel like this but I dunno why my life has been just so hard lately for me and my 17 1/2 year old daughter. Last year I felt completely different, this year I feel burnt out and just bored and unmotivated. I have a guy who keeps coming in and out my life he works abroad so he isnt a stable presence but I feel stuck and dunno if any of you have similar life experience or advice as that would be so useful.
My daughter has not been to school since age 8. I chose not to keep her in school because of some of the things we encountered in her school such as staff pinning kids down in isolation rooms as a punishment and like harming "bad" kids by restraining them in the classroom, which I did not want my young daughter to see or felt was appropriate.
She has been home educated since then. At the minute she has 2 gcses, a 9 in Spanish and 8 in computing/ICT. Her maths and english skills are quite subpar to be honest. She is a good speller, yet struggles with reading long books and guessing the "intention" of authors which is what a lot of GCSE is about. Her maths is reasonable and probably key stage 3 level, not the best but GCSE math standards are so high these days. In the last year she has done a cookery course, several language courses, business administration basics and we were asked to do an art course which she bloody hates and has no artistic talent really but we are 3/5 of the way through that and she just cant think of ideas and hates it and obviously wishes she was doing something else. The obvious thing to do next is driving, but the theory test I dont quite know how to study for it seen as I havent driven since I was in my 20s cos we live in an urban area where we can bus walk everywhere. The other thing I struggle with is deciding on the gold DOFE program. She has done it for 18 months, did all sections and loved the volunteering element. Its done all bits except the Expedition, and honestly how is a weeks walking, eating garbage and carrying a 20kg bag up a mountain useful to the development of a young person? This isnt the 1940s. We originally did this with a dofe open award center. She attended 2 training days. On the first one she was assigned to a team of 5 other girls, all of whom were friends from that posh arse Hills Road college in Cambridge. They ignored and excluded my already friendless daughter and walked ahead. My daughter is 5ft 4 70kg and is not unfit, she does swimming and dance, but no way can she walk 20 miles a day like they suggested with a back breaking Army bergen. The idiots said the expedition was to take place in summer. Considering the heatwaves we have had its a recipe for sun stroke, burns and nausea. On the second day she asked whether she could have a parent see her at a particular point of the day or night as she is high anxiety and gets sick when away overnight from parents she can stay at nanas house without us but it seems being away at night without parents presence is traumatic for her. She went to mendip activity center last year and being away led to panic attacks and a drinking episode. They said no,okay, but I dont think they care about her needs. The food is another troubling element. They suggested eating those gross ration pack boil in a bag meals. My daughter wont eat them preferring fresh foods, and wouldnt eat any with meat in them due to concern of quality. She would have to handle bottle gas, flames, putting up a tent, no contact even a mobile phone with parents, possible injury, carrying own excrement, managing herself miles from anywhere at 17 YEARS OLD what is this SAS basic training? We had her walk 10ks every week, every time her feet would begin to blister and bleed she has size 3 feet for context with the bag on so I decided to leave that centre and look at these expensive private expeditions on canoes but she wont do that either. This has led to a lot of arguments with me and her dad who the dad says stop pushing and she has done enough already. The final issue is she obviously doesnt want to go to uni next year but she just cant think of what job/career to do and seems to have lost interest in anything. Sorry to rant but any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

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sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:24

Yes, I have a 15 year old. At 17 he will take 2 gcses in subjects he enjoys and we will see about maths and english

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alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:24

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:13

She volunteers twice a week. Its sort of a job but its mostly 40 something adults. Its sad but a lot of her peers reject her and she just cant have the same life as them i guess they want her to be the outsider. When we tried this dofe gold group she was made fun of for her crooked teeth bodyweight and having no piercings. Thats the snob bit of those girls bullying her. I wish she had 1 or 2 good friends

YOU have done this. You have absolutely wrecked her chance at having a life and you're still blaming everyone else.

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:24

Thing is i have time with the just turned 15yo. With her i dont

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Naurrr · Yesterday 17:25

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:24

Yes, I have a 15 year old. At 17 he will take 2 gcses in subjects he enjoys and we will see about maths and english

Why? English and maths are the barest of minimums for everyone.

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:25

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:24

Yes, I have a 15 year old. At 17 he will take 2 gcses in subjects he enjoys and we will see about maths and english

This is abuse. You are unfit to be a parent.

BigYellowBus · Yesterday 17:26

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:24

Yes, I have a 15 year old. At 17 he will take 2 gcses in subjects he enjoys and we will see about maths and english

So another child with substandard qualifications?

alcovecupboards · Yesterday 17:26

Naurrr · Yesterday 17:25

Why? English and maths are the barest of minimums for everyone.

If they have any kind of real education they may work out that their mother has abused them for years and purposefully stunted their developments so she can keep them under her control. It's horrifying.

Waitingfordoggo · Yesterday 17:26

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:24

Yes, I have a 15 year old. At 17 he will take 2 gcses in subjects he enjoys and we will see about maths and english

So, just do the same thing again and expect a different outcome? Righto, good luck with it all.

myappletreeisladen · Yesterday 17:26

Surely you can see that you are now bearing the fruits of pulling her out of school and normality age 8. Poor kid.

Over40Overdating · Yesterday 17:27

Your daughter’s biggest barrier in life is you @sincerestwonders .

The DoE backpack weighs nothing compared to the chip you have on your shoulder.

You are a home educator who is barely educated, angry, chippy and resentful of the world. No wonder her nervous system is shot!

You have deprived your daughter of the opportunity to work out her social skills and anxieties with her peers. Most children feel left out til they find their peer group and you whisked her away to be given your social anxieties before she had the chance to develop social skills or resilience.

You suppose she could go to college at 18 or have told her she can’t go til she’s 21 - it’s not up to you to make those decisions once she is an adult: you are suffocating her with your own prejudices. And failing her on basic numeracy and literacy.

Grow up and get your arse in gear to make up for the opportunities you have cost your daughter instead of endlessly moaning about her being expected to do the exact same things her peers are doing. You should be ashamed of how badly you are failing her.

Harrysmummy246 · Yesterday 17:27

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:11

#givemesteel

You should have seen that school. A "normal" school where they treat kids like animals. The government need to DBS check all school staff and highly regulate methods of punishment of children.

They do..... And They do

I'm honestly starting to think this is a troll

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:28

A 7 year old lies on the floor of a room the size of a cupboard covered in bruises. This is a punishment for refusing to do maths or PE. The child is locked in the room for hours. The staff watch the child through the slit window in a door with a 1 way lock.
This is a normal UK state school. SEE WHY I HOME ED?

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Babybirdmum · Yesterday 17:28

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:13

She volunteers twice a week. Its sort of a job but its mostly 40 something adults. Its sad but a lot of her peers reject her and she just cant have the same life as them i guess they want her to be the outsider. When we tried this dofe gold group she was made fun of for her crooked teeth bodyweight and having no piercings. Thats the snob bit of those girls bullying her. I wish she had 1 or 2 good friends

Why did she not see an orthodontist about her teeth? If I had to guess your reply it would be “because she was too anxious and scared of the dentist” or something like that. Same with her weight your answer would be “she comfort eats” or something like that. It’s like you’re afraid of her ever feeling any type of nervousness or discomfort. Nobody likes the dentist, especially children. But with a kind dentist and encouragement from parents kids can be very resilient. My daughter had her front tooth knocked out age 4 and I knew that if she had it removed at the dentist it would be kinder than putting her under general anaesthetic which was the other option. Nobody was happy but I comforted her and reassured her and we made it through. She still loves the dentist because she gets a glove balloon and a sticker and she probably feels a little bit braver. If you always shield kids from things they don’t like, not only will you have an anxious child, but exacerbate their existing problems like crooked teeth and obesity, making them even more of an outcast. Sometimes as a mum, with more life experience, you’d have been kinder to help her get her teeth fixed so other girls have one less thing to bully her for. I just think you’re “protecting her” but you’re actually not at all, your actually making her life so much harder.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · Yesterday 17:28

I'm really trying to read your thread with optimism, because I don't have any qualms with home educating. I also think some of your descriptions of your daughter's natural disposition could point towards some sort of undiagnosed neurodiversity, but I just can't be optimistic about it because it sounds like she has been emotionally and educationally neglected for almost a decade at least.

I'm finding it hard to understand why she is academically so significantly behind and I just really think in this case it has because she's been denied the opportunities for development. Even if it is because she has a condition that could account for the lack of social skills, academic ability and poor motivation, I think she's been denied opportunities to have that medically explored too.

I'm really sorry OP, but I think you're the manufacturer of this.

Harrysmummy246 · Yesterday 17:28

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:17

This school was back in 2014 before dbs checking existed

Yes, they were called CRB checks then. Same principle. YOu have NO idea about reality do you

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:29

Cuz she doesnt have the "perfect" straight white teeth of the hills road kids, hers are natural.

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ForeverDelayedEpiphany · Yesterday 17:29

And yes, absolutely agree that parents should be trying to instill grit, determination, independence, and resilience into their children as part of being a good parent. Developing these skills comes from being put in less than favourable situations and getting through them. How do people expect to have a sense of responsibility or resilience if they give up at the first hurdle?

I think your DD needs to go to college somehow, OP, at least to get some GCSEs. Once she's done this, it'll be a bit easier.

Bababear987 · Yesterday 17:29

Curious why you decided 2 gcse was the goal?

OhCrumbsWhereNow · Yesterday 17:29

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:24

Yes, I have a 15 year old. At 17 he will take 2 gcses in subjects he enjoys and we will see about maths and english

This is insane.
You should not be home educating - you are not fit to home educate.

Your poor, poor children. You should be utterly ashamed of yourself.

I suggest you contact social services tomorrow and ask for urgent help before you totally ruin both their lives more than you have.

Bababear987 · Yesterday 17:30

This is bound to be a wind up, how are kids allowed to remain with a parent so neglectful/abusive?

Notimeforaname · Yesterday 17:30

I, too, think you should call social services for help.

Jamlighter · Yesterday 17:30

Peterbourough college starte dmath and engish courses on 1/9/26. She could join now easily. Do not let her waste another year of her life . Put your 15 year old in school now.

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:31

I will put the elder down for functional skills maths at peterborough college

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Trounlet · Yesterday 17:31

There's quite a lot yo unpack here, but Ill give it a go;

Priority 1, get her to an fe college, as someone said up thread there might still be time for this academic year. She'll be able to do languages or business admin (at level 1 or 2) alongside her maths & English gcse.

College will probably help her socialisation to as there will be a wide range of people and hopefully your DD will find her tribe.

Don't hold her back another year whilst you get to the end of your academic year, as it will mean that she'll be starting with 16y olds when she is 18 which won't help to make a network.

Forget about university for the next 4 years at least, she needs the basics and more gcse level qualifications along with a level or equivalent to get to university. Whilst DofE can support a university application without GCSEs/A levels she's can't even submit an application.

In summary call the college tomorrow to support your daughter.

OsfameronTanamoril · Yesterday 17:31

sincerestwonders · Yesterday 17:28

A 7 year old lies on the floor of a room the size of a cupboard covered in bruises. This is a punishment for refusing to do maths or PE. The child is locked in the room for hours. The staff watch the child through the slit window in a door with a 1 way lock.
This is a normal UK state school. SEE WHY I HOME ED?

I do not know of any school like this.
And you apparently have another child you are home educating to achieve 2 GCSEs? Why on earth would you repeat your mistakes?

I see you have started another thread in Education. Maybe that's a good idea. Lots of very well informed people there. But you need to call a college first thing tomorrow and get your 2nd kid back into school.
If you have a family, what do they think of your tactics?