3 year old boy (Noah) missing in Brantham, Suffolk

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr5yev2v1x29o

Oh God bless him! Every parents worse nightmare!

The K9 team are out looking.

I disagree. It’s not a national emergency. It’s not like an adult or a teenager or pre teen with the potential capacity to have wanted to go missing, to have perhaps travelled further etc.

The only thing making it a national headline achieves is to create discussions like this one and worse where you get a load of people starting a thread on social media saying things like “poor baby, hope he’s found,” and then the speculators come out.

It’s best to keep it local IMO

I would imagine that it would be very rare for a three year old to go missing for more than an hour without it being a major story. Older children maybe, as they go to friends, play out etc, but not a toddler.

it’s not a national emergency and support acts on Ed Sheeran’s tour are, of course.

If someone has taken Noah and I really hope they haven’t of course but as much publicity as possible is helpful.

I tried them when my son was younger but generally speaking he wasn’t an eloper so we were lucky in that sense. I am just anxious about being separated from him and him not being able to tell anyone what’s happened.

There are SEND reins which some people definitely do use.

It is the DM headline.

It's in the BBC headlines now. Looked the area up on google earth. It's difficult to search. Loads of footpaths between streets and farmland next door. Poor boy outside alone all night.

I lost my daughter in the London Sea Life Aquarium once when she was around 1.5 years old. I had the buggy and she was walking in front of it but then there was a crowd and she slipped through people's feet and I couldn't get through fast enough with the buggy to run after her. It was dark and there were so many different rooms and so many people. I was totally frantic trying to find her! Thankfully someone pointed me towards a toddler standing nicely by a large fish tank watching the fish. 🐠 But it was pure horror trying to find her and she could have absolutely been taken by someone and I wouldn't have known. 😢

For those headed down the conspiracy route don't the place has lots of waterways literally surrouned by them sadly.

They probably did but once they’ve gone round a corner you don’t know which way to go. And then they get further and further away if you take the wrong direction. A friends child did this and he was missing for a couple of hours. And she can run pretty fast.

Yes, wrist straps too. The difficulty is if the child fights them.

I don’t see any harm in them, but road traffic accidents involving children as pedestrians are extremely rare. Child pedestrian fatalities have fallen by 85% in the 2020s compared to the 1980s which I believe, and reins were far more commonplace in the 1980s

Then we had James Bulger which was a terrible tragedy but I don’t think in isolation is a particularly strong argument tbh. James was on the cusp of turning three, so at what point should children be ‘released’?

Like I say, people can use them if they want to - I’m not anti reins, but I don’t like it when there’s a tragedy involving a young child and people disapprovingly talk about the good old days with reins when actually both traffic fatalities and stranger abductions were far higher at a time when reins were commonplace.

It needs to be in local news so that local people can realistically help, and that is what has happened. It would help no-one to have a pack of national reporters turning up doorstepping the family and anyone who might conceivably know them.

Decades ago my mum and sister took my son out to a shop while they were on holiday in Italy. He was about 3. I hadn't gone due to illness. He bolted from the shop. It took them a full five minutes to find him, which doesn't sound a lot but when there's an extremely rapidly moving toddler, it is terrifying. Luckily he was fine, and I hope the ones blaming the grandfather are ashamed of themselves. (not on here, other forums I've seen)

I know you can buy something called Tractive for animals and it shows their travel path and location if they escape. I haven't been parent to a small child since the early 2000s, is there nothing comparable for kids?

I agree, but just wanted to add to this should anyone be unfortunate enough for this to happen to them:
if a child is at a junction with two turnings they tend to take the downhill route.

Really hope Noah is found safe and well this morning

I mentioned reins because I’m a big fan not because I’m in any way blaming anyone in this case. Indeed, I feel deep sympathy for the poor grandfather. This is an awful accident and he’s not to blame, poor man.

My comments about reins were general and in response to someone else’s comment. There is a trick because how many children do you see walking around all day out and about without shoes? You persist, right? My children are older now but I vaguely remember one of them at least trying to remove the reins or fuss about them. They did that with coats sometimes too. But I just explained that you wore them without a reins/shoes/coat if you wanted to go out.

They’re not just to help catch them if they stumble. They’re for safety near roads and water, to keep them near you without stress, and to give them independence with a safety net so, as they get older, they don’t have to hold your hand.

We lived on a massive housing estate with paths that ran in every direction. A lost child was an absolute nightmare to find.

Why wouldn't a sniffer dog be used in this case?

Also, I am quite amazed that many of us have a tracker (AirTag) on our house keys and our suitcases but not on our DC. I think if I had small DC these days I would attach it to them when I went out.

Neither of those instances are 'national emergencies'. At this point and based on the limited information released to the public, it appears possible that Noah could have been taken by someone and could be anywhere in the UK. Raising awareness is sensible.

wow reported

I don't understand your logic. If someone picked him up and drove him hundreds of miles, it is of national importance that people keep an eye out for him.

Was stranger abduction far more common? Do you have any sources for that?

I imagine the drop in child rtas is due to our profound dislike of walking anywhere. Now we drive and get fat instead.

That’s why I got the wrist band for dd attaching us together. It wouldn’t have helped in this situation as it sounds as if he was playing on equipment. I so hope they find him safe and well.

Wtaf?

What the actual fuck?!

Proud of that one are you? Disgusting.