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bafta16 · Today 10:51

Alondra · Today 10:48

I hope he's found soon alive. Unfortunately with a small munchkin non verbal and with hearing problems it doesn't look good.

And I fully blame his carers (family). A child this young, with serious disabilities for his young age, shoiuld be aways be in sight.

Have you never made an error?

One of my children was seen "going into a bedroom with a man crying" while we were in a hotel.

A simple human error on my part. He dodged out of the lift and went missing for about 5 minutes.

LovingTheClassics · Today 10:51

I think the reins came off about 3 for us too, but they were definitely off by 4 when ds could understand the consequences of bolting.
There were many times had he not been wearing reins he would have ran out into the middle of the road or we could have lost track of him.
Before we got them he had bolted a couple of times and was so fast we struggled to catch him.. I can't imagine what this poor family are going through, but if they knew he was profoundly autistic they really should have had him on some sort of leash.. I know it sounds horrid but they do really save lives.
I will be doing the same for my dd when she is toddling around, not just in case she runs but also to deter any potential kidnappers.

ladyjaynes · Today 10:51

Alondra · Today 10:48

I hope he's found soon alive. Unfortunately with a small munchkin non verbal and with hearing problems it doesn't look good.

And I fully blame his carers (family). A child this young, with serious disabilities for his young age, shoiuld be aways be in sight.

These things happen very quickly to the most vigilant carer. Save your judgement

bettyrubble99 · Today 10:52

The Sky News helicopter is there now. I haven't seen a post from his parents, only one where he commented on a local page and didn't reply to anyone or come back.

3 year old boy (Noah) missing in Brantham, Suffolk
Nincompoo · Today 10:52

It’s probably worth being mindful that there’s a good chance his mum, aunties, grandparents could be mumsnet users and all this speculation and talking about other missing children is incredibly insensitive.

I’m praying he is found safe and well.

(edited, typo)

zipitpls · Today 10:53

I don’t know how anyone can judge his family. For what, falling over?

Contain4 · Today 10:53

Alondra · Today 10:48

I hope he's found soon alive. Unfortunately with a small munchkin non verbal and with hearing problems it doesn't look good.

And I fully blame his carers (family). A child this young, with serious disabilities for his young age, shoiuld be aways be in sight.

That’s unfair, we have no idea of the situation.

It is not physically possible to watch someone 24/7 and it only takes a split second for a child to sneak away.

He could have climbed out the window or managed to unlock a door and within the few minutes it took to check the house and garden, he could have gone in any direction.

Funkyfoxy · Today 10:54

From maps it looks very easy for him to get out of sight as there is so much woodland right there, it will be a needle in haystack. This could happen to anyone. Poor boy

Dollymylove · Today 10:54

Omg the family must be distraught. I hope he found soon x

Never2many · Today 10:56

Efacsen · Today 10:38

A couple of years ago a French toddler ran off from his grandparents garden in the French alps - think he was called Jacques - despite extensive searches in a heatwave/difficult terrain he wasn't found until the following spring

His body was just outside the search zone so he had wandered beyond what the searchers had thought possible - think it must be difficult to assess

Lots of unpleasant speculation at the time - none of which turned out to be true

His name was Émile Soleil. His family were arrested and released two days later but there is still an ongoing criminal investigation into his death.

It is absolutely believed that he was murdered, so given there haven’t been any charges yet it’s not necessarily true to say that any speculation was untrue.

Statistically a child who disappears and is later found murdered is almost always found to have been killed by someone they knew. So while it might be unpalatable for people to speculate, it’s not unreasonable that people would jump to that conclusion.

Amberlynnswashcloth · Today 10:57

fashionqueen0123 · Today 09:57

His dad has posted this on FB

Hi all,

Thank every single one of you who have taken part in the search for our boy Noah,

To clear things up because people really do make up their own stories, he is only mildly autistic and has partial hearing loss, he is fully capable of every day tasks,

We still have nothing, all the emergency services and all of you have shown how strong this community is, with people coming from far and wide also,

The emergency services are very confident that the high risk areas (Decoy pond, railway lines) are all clear,

This means knowing our boy, he has gone even further, could I ask that all of you brilliant people out there today expand further if you are able to? Reference where I have outlined, and maybe even further than this,

I cannot go another night knowing he’s out there alone, please don’t give up on him guys,

He is out there somewhere and I appreciate every single one of you.

I'm glad the father has been able to clarify this point. However, it was mainstream media reporting that first described Noah as being non verbal, deaf and that he doesn't respond to his own name thus implying that he is quite impaired with a high level of need. That seems to have been the basis for the rumours and accusations that followed. All very unhelpful at this time.

Orangemintcream · Today 10:58

Incidentally I’ve been reading people says the reason he got away is he was with his grandparent who ran after him and fell - which meant he couldn’t catch up to him again.

EasternStandard · Today 10:59

Alondra · Today 10:48

I hope he's found soon alive. Unfortunately with a small munchkin non verbal and with hearing problems it doesn't look good.

And I fully blame his carers (family). A child this young, with serious disabilities for his young age, shoiuld be aways be in sight.

This is incredibly unfair. The grandad tripped and the boy was fast. He’ll be living the worst nightmare. He doesn’t need this on top.

Notonthestairs · Today 11:01

Alondra · Today 10:48

I hope he's found soon alive. Unfortunately with a small munchkin non verbal and with hearing problems it doesn't look good.

And I fully blame his carers (family). A child this young, with serious disabilities for his young age, shoiuld be aways be in sight.

I don’t think anyone should be apportioning blame unless they have full picture of what happened. Even then it’s for the family to consider, not MN.

AustenitesUnite · Today 11:02

Alondra · Today 10:48

I hope he's found soon alive. Unfortunately with a small munchkin non verbal and with hearing problems it doesn't look good.

And I fully blame his carers (family). A child this young, with serious disabilities for his young age, shoiuld be aways be in sight.

You fully blame his carers (family)?

How can you possibly say that when all the reports suggest his family member tripped and fell?

Honestly, some people's lack of empathy for a family having the VERY worst time of their life leads me speechless . . . .

Alondra · Today 11:03

bafta16 · Today 10:51

Have you never made an error?

One of my children was seen "going into a bedroom with a man crying" while we were in a hotel.

A simple human error on my part. He dodged out of the lift and went missing for about 5 minutes.

Never outside home. My children were the usual ]omboy kids but I, my DH and the GP, watched them like hawks when they were tots in publlic spaces.

My nephew is severely intellectually disabled and living in Madrid. Never had a problem socially because he's always being closely watched by his family and carers.

You don't make mistakes losing a toddler with disabilites in a public outing. There is an awful lack of responsability and care, to get to this awful outcome.

bafta16 · Today 11:05

Alondra · Today 11:03

Never outside home. My children were the usual ]omboy kids but I, my DH and the GP, watched them like hawks when they were tots in publlic spaces.

My nephew is severely intellectually disabled and living in Madrid. Never had a problem socially because he's always being closely watched by his family and carers.

You don't make mistakes losing a toddler with disabilites in a public outing. There is an awful lack of responsability and care, to get to this awful outcome.

Disagree totally.

Hope for a good outcome.

Never2many · Today 11:07

Amberlynnswashcloth · Today 10:57

I'm glad the father has been able to clarify this point. However, it was mainstream media reporting that first described Noah as being non verbal, deaf and that he doesn't respond to his own name thus implying that he is quite impaired with a high level of need. That seems to have been the basis for the rumours and accusations that followed. All very unhelpful at this time.

All the more reason why this doesn’t need to be national news at this stage.

Given that the media have presumably just made up the fact that this child is non verbal with serious disabilities, we have no idea what is true and what isn’t, including the manner in which he disappeared.

At this point the media are reporting that the grandad fell but clearly we can’t believe a word of it, and now that we’ve established he’s apparently not all that disabled the speculation will just increase.

And the only thing the media are doing at this stage is camping out at the area hoping to be the first to break the story. I mean sky news sending a helicopter? We all know how the likes of sky news operate. Tabloid TV at its very worst.

WheresMyHatGone · Today 11:07

His poor grandad must be living a nightmare and blaming himself. Little ones can be so quick to dart off and think it's a game. I hope and pray he is found safe and well soon.

ItsPickleRick · Today 11:07

Alondra · Today 11:03

Never outside home. My children were the usual ]omboy kids but I, my DH and the GP, watched them like hawks when they were tots in publlic spaces.

My nephew is severely intellectually disabled and living in Madrid. Never had a problem socially because he's always being closely watched by his family and carers.

You don't make mistakes losing a toddler with disabilites in a public outing. There is an awful lack of responsability and care, to get to this awful outcome.

I don’t believe for a second that you’ve never made a mistake, or an error of judgement. There but for the grace of God.

Your comments are absolutely disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.

ItsPickleRick · Today 11:08

Never2many · Today 11:07

All the more reason why this doesn’t need to be national news at this stage.

Given that the media have presumably just made up the fact that this child is non verbal with serious disabilities, we have no idea what is true and what isn’t, including the manner in which he disappeared.

At this point the media are reporting that the grandad fell but clearly we can’t believe a word of it, and now that we’ve established he’s apparently not all that disabled the speculation will just increase.

And the only thing the media are doing at this stage is camping out at the area hoping to be the first to break the story. I mean sky news sending a helicopter? We all know how the likes of sky news operate. Tabloid TV at its very worst.

It was a witness on a local page that said grandad had fallen, she was there.

I assume the media have picked that up from reading the page.

EasternStandard · Today 11:08

AustenitesUnite · Today 11:02

You fully blame his carers (family)?

How can you possibly say that when all the reports suggest his family member tripped and fell?

Honestly, some people's lack of empathy for a family having the VERY worst time of their life leads me speechless . . . .

Yep awful isn’t it

IkeaJesusChrist · Today 11:09

I'm hoping for a good outcome and that Noah is found but the longer it goes on the less chance there is.

Anyone blaming his grandad needs to give their head a wobble and shut up.

Fairyyqueen · Today 11:11

ItsPickleRick · Today 11:08

It was a witness on a local page that said grandad had fallen, she was there.

I assume the media have picked that up from reading the page.

Edited

Interesting, so there were other people around at the time, I was imagining it just being the child and grandad and that’s why no one else saw anything

Greengage1983 · Today 11:11

Alondra · Today 11:03

Never outside home. My children were the usual ]omboy kids but I, my DH and the GP, watched them like hawks when they were tots in publlic spaces.

My nephew is severely intellectually disabled and living in Madrid. Never had a problem socially because he's always being closely watched by his family and carers.

You don't make mistakes losing a toddler with disabilites in a public outing. There is an awful lack of responsability and care, to get to this awful outcome.

You were lucky, and now you're being a shit.