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Ed Sheeran/Macklemore

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WallyHilloughby · 15/09/2026 19:36

what are your thoughts on this whole debacle?
quite frankly I’m sick and tired of artists using concerts etc as some political forum

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BatchCookBabe · 16/09/2026 16:05

WallyHilloughby · 15/09/2026 19:36

what are your thoughts on this whole debacle?
quite frankly I’m sick and tired of artists using concerts etc as some political forum

I wish posters would provide more context and information as to what on earth they're on about in their first post!

But yeah, I gather they've been ranting about their political opinions???

Let me guess... they are left wing opinions? 🙄 They always are when they're celebrities. Tedious.

JeanSimmons · 16/09/2026 16:10

doctorbrown · 16/09/2026 16:02

Ed Sheeran had no issue being "political" when it was Ukraine.

The statement from Ed was tone deaf.

Being silent to genocide and crimes against humanity is being complicit - don't fool yourself its anything else. This is not a political issue as he (and others on this thread) frame it - thats just convenient framing so you can make excuses for your inaction and lack of voice here. You had no qualms when it was Ukraine.

Any position not opposing genocide and speaking up about it is devoid of morality, humanity and spineless. One of the biggest privileges of being rich and influential for people like Ed is to help make positive changes in the world. When the international court of justice rules this as a genocide - but you find yourself still argue its political..disgusting.

There is NO justification for sniping children in the head. This gross conflation with the actions of Hamas and this being then acceptable is sick.

There is no Hamas in the west bank - yet see have seen decades of violence and apartheid towards the Palestinians.

To repeat, as defined by the laws and rules we have in this world - Israel is legally occupier and committing genocide. Its clear. Stop making your own biased interpretations when courts and international bodies have already defined that.

What a lot of words to talk absolute rubbish.

DeterminedRat · 16/09/2026 16:11

ColadhSamh · 16/09/2026 15:16

All about Macklemore and barely a mention for Kraft.

Prostitution
Abuse of women
Human trafficking
Supports murder of thousands of men, women and CHILDREN
Supports stealing of land
Supports throwing families out of their homes
Supports settlers living on stolen land and living in stolen homes
Part of a cabal who supported a Holocaust denier
Friend of Epstein, Trump and Netanyahu
Tried to bribe cops
Used Epstein recommended lawyer Goldberger
Got District Judge Rodolfo A. Ruiz to order destruction of video of Kraft getting a hnd and blw job

As for throwing the racism and anti semetic card around, abhorrent behaviour. How insulting. There are people of Jewish faith and Israeli citizens who protest regularly against the Israeli government actions in Palestine.

I agree. It's crazy how many people are willing to bow to the Epstein class, ignore their horrendous behaviour and don't seem to mind their attempts at controlling what the plebs can and can't be exposed to.

Thankfully on this occasion him and his ilk are failing miserably. More people than ever are now aware of Macklemore and it's keeping Palestine on people's minds. It reminds me of the own goal of Sharon Osbourne when she tried to silence Kneecap, same result.

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dreamiesformolly · 16/09/2026 16:17

Justanopinionnothingmore · 16/09/2026 12:15

You see where do you get off? How do you know people don't care?

People get shit shoved down their throats ona daily basis, sometimes you just want to switch off from it all. One person can't fix it all and we are bombarded so much with depression and bad news that not everyone can cope with it all of the time.

I feel for every single person who has something awful happen to them. And I truly wish I could fix it for them. But I can't and neither can most people. Just trying to live day by day and sometimes you need a break from it. My brain can't take constant negativity, I just switch off from it all as I can do feck all about it. The world's leaders and the rich will do what they like regardless of the little folk.

Not saying it's right but why are you judging people for simply living and wanting to see something without a condition attached to it.

Yes people going through awful times don't necessarily get to switch off from it but you cannot blame people for wanting to take a break from it. The human mind can only take on so much.

I agree people can only take so much negativity. Sometimes I need a break from it myself. But I completely disagree that the 'little folk' can't do anything to bring about change. There are countless examples throughout history of the 'little folk' doing just that. I can't claim to have pulled off anything society-changing myself, but I do honestly believe the 'what can you do?' mentality is dangerous. People can and must stand up to the leaders and the super-rich. And I stand by my view that two minutes at a pop concert isn't a massive deal.

Aworldofmyown · 16/09/2026 16:26

Do you know what I'm finding really fucking annoying. All the artists and celebrities who have come out to condemn Ed Sheeran whilst never saying a fucking word until now. Its alright when someone else is the focus of the vitriol.

ProudBlackMomma · 16/09/2026 17:06

marlboro · 16/09/2026 14:51

Lol I’m not sure you know who ms Rachel is. She champions all children. No matter their religion, race or skin colour. Perhaps research before making false comments?

Oh I do. She’s a disgrace.

meisafairy · 16/09/2026 17:09

ProudBlackMomma · 16/09/2026 17:06

Oh I do. She’s a disgrace.

For real, you are calling Miss Rachel a disgrace?
The woman champions all children across the world, what is the disgrace about that?

Martymcfly24 · 16/09/2026 17:13

meisafairy · 16/09/2026 17:09

For real, you are calling Miss Rachel a disgrace?
The woman champions all children across the world, what is the disgrace about that?

Because she doesn't want Palestinians to be murdered or Israeli children to suffer (or Sudanese or migrant children or any cause she has championed)

An out and out bitch obviously...

ColdLittleHeart · 16/09/2026 17:37

ColadhSamh · 16/09/2026 15:16

All about Macklemore and barely a mention for Kraft.

Prostitution
Abuse of women
Human trafficking
Supports murder of thousands of men, women and CHILDREN
Supports stealing of land
Supports throwing families out of their homes
Supports settlers living on stolen land and living in stolen homes
Part of a cabal who supported a Holocaust denier
Friend of Epstein, Trump and Netanyahu
Tried to bribe cops
Used Epstein recommended lawyer Goldberger
Got District Judge Rodolfo A. Ruiz to order destruction of video of Kraft getting a hnd and blw job

As for throwing the racism and anti semetic card around, abhorrent behaviour. How insulting. There are people of Jewish faith and Israeli citizens who protest regularly against the Israeli government actions in Palestine.

All about Macklemore and barely a word about Hamas. That terrorist organisation whose leaders live in actual fucking palaces in the Middle East funded by their devastation of Gaza.

We must never forget the ongoing suffering of Palestinians living in Gaza. We must also never forget the people that failed them and continue to do so. None of those people were at that Ed Sheeran concert. So what exactly has he achieved. Oh yeah more division between Israelis and Palestinians, Jews and Muslims. More hatred on the internet. Bravo Macklemore. At least you’ve come out looking like a hero!

ColadhSamh · 16/09/2026 17:52

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ColadhSamh · 16/09/2026 17:54

ColdLittleHeart · 16/09/2026 17:37

All about Macklemore and barely a word about Hamas. That terrorist organisation whose leaders live in actual fucking palaces in the Middle East funded by their devastation of Gaza.

We must never forget the ongoing suffering of Palestinians living in Gaza. We must also never forget the people that failed them and continue to do so. None of those people were at that Ed Sheeran concert. So what exactly has he achieved. Oh yeah more division between Israelis and Palestinians, Jews and Muslims. More hatred on the internet. Bravo Macklemore. At least you’ve come out looking like a hero!

and yet not a word on Kraft .....................

Martymcfly24 · 16/09/2026 17:57

ColadhSamh · 16/09/2026 17:54

and yet not a word on Kraft .....................

Exactly

Don't make it political but an ally of Netanyahu was the one who threatened cancellation.

Ok.

ErroltheSwampDragon · 16/09/2026 18:07

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I haven't seen anyone say they are a "Kraft supporter" or that Kanye West is acceptable (quite the opposite). There are two stadiums which have allegedly blocked Macklemore but allowed Kanye West (neither owned by Kraft) and they should have blocked West for his violent and antisemitic speech.

Jewish identity is linked to Israel as evidenced by the references to it in the Torah and festivals such as Passover centered around returning to Israel. That doesn't mean it is antisemitic to criticise Israel, that every Jew has the same opinion of Israel, or that it is as important to all Jews.

The only people I see weaponising antisemitism are the antisemites.

ColdLittleHeart · 16/09/2026 18:33

ColadhSamh · 16/09/2026 17:54

and yet not a word on Kraft .....................

See my part about people failing them. That’s all the rich powerful men that orchestrate and benefit from these conflicts, including Kraft. I don’t believe there’s a distinction between the sides. They’re all as barbaric and power hungry as each other. I think the same about Netanyahu as I do Hamas. You can’t call out one without calling out the other.

My point is, it’s not the concert goers who need reminding and it takes focus away from the real victims.

Yet Macklemore was happy to join the tour knowing he would have to perform in Kraft’s stadium. He would have done his research. He pulled out of a Dubai show over similar political concerns so why agree to that one I wonder?!

noblegiraffe · 16/09/2026 18:37

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Out of interest, do you consider this to be antisemitism?

Ed Sheeran/Macklemore
IceCreamCone543 · 16/09/2026 18:39

Chockachip · 15/09/2026 21:20

Macklemore probably doesn’t understand what he’s talking about. ‘Free Palestine’ is a trendy sentence. 98% of the people saying it don’t understand the history.

Oh, he definitely seems to understand what is going on..

FragrantRosePetals · 16/09/2026 18:57

BoredZelda · 16/09/2026 15:26

I see this thread is full of misinformation, a lack of critical thinking and a complete inability to understand nuance.

This issue has so many shades of grey and is far too complex to reduce it to Macklemore good, Sheeran bad that is being served up in 30 second sound bites on social media.

It can, however, be distilled down.

Macklemore chooses to use his platform to speak about Palestine. He has a history of Antisemitism that goes beyond his stance on Palestine and this is why some are choosing to disassociate with him. He hasn’t, to my knowledge, been able to refute the antisemitism accusations, it seems he has taken the “Jews are bad, oh but I don’t mean the ones who are in my crowd” line on defending himself.

P!nk has long been political in her music, and never shies away from difficult topics. She is also Jewish. She is clear that the actions of the Israeli Government in Palestine are not acceptable and that the people of Palestine deserve “a future that honours their humanity and their aspirations.” In her work with UNICEF, she has seen horrors first hand. She doesn’t blame Palestinians or Israelis for the actions of their governments. She is fearful of the rise of antisemitism, much of which is dressed up by some as simply supporting Palestine. She believes her Jewish and Palestinian fans deserve to feel as safe at her concerts as everyone else. Allowing any act who is making a political statement about Palestine threatens that safety.

Ed Sheeran didn’t drop Macklemore, the tour promoters did. He is apolitical in his music so hasn’t stated any opinion on the political situation. Having support bands isn’t an endorsement of their political or personal views. To suggest he can cancel his tour “in solidarity” would A) break that apolitical stance and B) mean a whole lot of people who support his tour would be out of a job, fans would be out of pocket etc. He is standing up for what he believes in, which is, his music and his own performance is free of politics.

Nobody has “been cancelled”. All involved still have their careers.
Nobody’s “free speech” has been curtailed, nobody has been “censored”. They are free to espouse their views publicly in whatever way they want. Indeed, I barely know who Macklemore is, but I have heard all of his views on everything simply because of the number of stories about him being “censored”. Freedom of speech doesn’t come with freedom from consequences. For all involved, their views and opinions on this matter will have consequences. Macklemore has been denied a few gigs, Sheeran has been derided for his apolitical stance (the sort of stance we’ve just been lauding Dolly Parton for 🧐), and P!nk is facing yet more attacks on her character - nothing new for her, it won’t stop her doing what she thinks is right.

Nobody needs to take sides. Here are 3 people who have all expressed their sadness for the situation in Palestine, but go about things in a different way.

The current clamour for every person who has been famous for more than 5 minutes to publicly declare their views on Palestine is ridiculous. It would do nothing to change the situation and serves only to allow people to place judgement on them for their opinion. I’m all for people using their public platforms to raise awareness of issues, getting involved in politics etc. where it is actual advocacy backed up with meaningful action. Otherwise it is simply using a cause to gain notoriety.

I see this thread is full of misinformation, a lack of critical thinking and a complete inability to understand nuance.
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This issue has so many shades of grey and is far too complex to reduce it to Macklemore good, Sheeran bad that is being served up in 30 second sound bites on social media.
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It can, however, be distilled down.

Okay everyone, abandon the thread. No need for any more discussion.

@BoredZelda has pronounced and no other opinions are required.

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FragrantRosePetals · 16/09/2026 19:01

dh280125 · 16/09/2026 15:42

Ed should come out on the side of Israel, f Macklemore and all the other antisemites. Palestine can be free when it stops having a government that hates Jews.

What have Lucas Graham done to be labelled antisemites?

Are you saying you believe all criticism of Israel is antisemitic?

FragrantRosePetals · 16/09/2026 19:12

DeterminedRat · 16/09/2026 16:11

I agree. It's crazy how many people are willing to bow to the Epstein class, ignore their horrendous behaviour and don't seem to mind their attempts at controlling what the plebs can and can't be exposed to.

Thankfully on this occasion him and his ilk are failing miserably. More people than ever are now aware of Macklemore and it's keeping Palestine on people's minds. It reminds me of the own goal of Sharon Osbourne when she tried to silence Kneecap, same result.

Edited

Why anyone listens to that dreadful woman (Sharon Osborne) is beyond me.

I saw her on Would I Lie To You telling a true story about how she sent an employee into a burning house to rescue paintings and a dog. Firemen gave him an oxygen mask and she took it off him and put it on her dog. And then she sacked him because he was traumatised.

Lost all respect for David Mitchell on that occasion too, that he laughed along at someone proudly telling him how she sees her employees as subhuman.

Sorry bit of a diversion there.

Loudjay · 16/09/2026 19:15

Some people are not racist at all

Martymcfly24 · 16/09/2026 19:19

FragrantRosePetals · 16/09/2026 19:12

Why anyone listens to that dreadful woman (Sharon Osborne) is beyond me.

I saw her on Would I Lie To You telling a true story about how she sent an employee into a burning house to rescue paintings and a dog. Firemen gave him an oxygen mask and she took it off him and put it on her dog. And then she sacked him because he was traumatised.

Lost all respect for David Mitchell on that occasion too, that he laughed along at someone proudly telling him how she sees her employees as subhuman.

Sorry bit of a diversion there.

Edited

Another one who doesn't agree with politics in music but what she really means is politics I don't agree with . It was fine when her husband was doing it.

dh280125 · 16/09/2026 19:46

FragrantRosePetals · 16/09/2026 19:01

What have Lucas Graham done to be labelled antisemites?

Are you saying you believe all criticism of Israel is antisemitic?

I’m saying Macklemore is unquestionably, famously, an antisemite.

Ed Sheeran/Macklemore
aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2026 19:51

The ADL don’t appear to think he is

noblegiraffe · 16/09/2026 20:18

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2026 19:51

The ADL don’t appear to think he is

Yes they do.

Their most recent tweet about him says "This isn’t new for Macklemore. He has a record of demonizing Israel and Israelis, falsely accusing Israel of genocide and engaging in antisemitic rhetoric and behavior."

https://x.com/adl/status/2096727016812827083?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

ADL (@ADL) on X

Ed Sheeran’s fans came for a concert, not performative, biased and hateful anti-Israel “activism” from his opener, Macklemore. Imagine being a Jewish or Israeli fan who came with family or friends to enjoy the show, only to be confronted with this hos...

https://x.com/ADL/status/2096727016812827083?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2026 20:24

noblegiraffe · 16/09/2026 20:18

Yes they do.

Their most recent tweet about him says "This isn’t new for Macklemore. He has a record of demonizing Israel and Israelis, falsely accusing Israel of genocide and engaging in antisemitic rhetoric and behavior."

https://x.com/adl/status/2096727016812827083?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

That’s at odds with what they said back then

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/may/20/macklemore-adl-antisemitism-row-costume