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Does anyone know what's going on in Dover?

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YourWatermelonship · 05/09/2026 11:09

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cmwyzxlzxpzgt
Hundreds of masked protesters dressed in black disrupting Dover port.

They bear an unfortunate resemblance to the blackshirts

Port of Dover delays: Miles of traffic as protesters block roads

Traffic is being stopped from going in and out of the port because of a demonstration by a large group of masked protesters, with ferry services operating with some delay.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cmwyzxlzxpzgt

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DuncinToffee · 05/09/2026 22:23

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:20

She will be locking down the borders, there won"t be many people needing saved at sea IMO.

so she will stop refugees leaving France?

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:24

EasternStandard · 05/09/2026 22:18

That’s not correct. Refugees at Home provide for both.

Refugees at Home is a UK charity which connects those with a spare room in their home to refugees and people seeking asylum who are in need of somewhere to stay.

In some cases, yes, you are correct. Not all asylum seekers.
A yway, the point is that some people do host. The fact that others can’t, for whatever reason, doesn’t mean they must therefore oppose asylum, because it’s a function of government to handle it.

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:25

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:18

It’s not the EU’s fault we don’t have frictionless trade with them. Farage had a lot to do with it.
The EU doesn’t tell everyone they can join - there are strict standards to meet.
Maybe stop blaming everything on everyone else and take some responsibility for voting Leave.

No, the standards are flexible, they will do accounting tricks ( and have done) to let certain countries in. I"m happy to have voted Leave and would do so again tomorrow if there was another vote, one of the interesting things about Brexit was that the public got to see establishment politicians try to overthrow a democratic vote, many of them were from Labour, very very distasteful moment in British politics.

Imafluffykitten · 05/09/2026 22:26

DuncinToffee · 05/09/2026 22:23

so she will stop refugees leaving France?

They cannot possibly stay in France if she becomes president.

We have to bring them all here.

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:29

DuncinToffee · 05/09/2026 22:23

so she will stop refugees leaving France?

She will likely send them to a non- EU country to be processed.

www.europeaninterest.eu/five-eu-countries-plan-return-hubs-for-rejected-migrants-facing-criticism-from-rights-groups/

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:31

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:25

No, the standards are flexible, they will do accounting tricks ( and have done) to let certain countries in. I"m happy to have voted Leave and would do so again tomorrow if there was another vote, one of the interesting things about Brexit was that the public got to see establishment politicians try to overthrow a democratic vote, many of them were from Labour, very very distasteful moment in British politics.

Nobody has tried to overthrow a democratic vote. If you still think it was a good idea you are being distinctly selective in the information you believe. It has been, and was always going to be, an utter disaster.

Imafluffykitten · 05/09/2026 22:31

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:29

That’s why I’m saying that we have to take them all in.

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:32

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:29

And once they have been processed?
That was the issue with the Rwanda scheme. It wasn’t off shore processing. There was no route back to the U.K. even if asylum was granted.

DuncinToffee · 05/09/2026 22:33

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:29

Those are for rejected asylum seekers, rejected after going through the process in those countries.

Do you really believe LePen will stop refugees going to the UK? How much will she want in return?

WinterGold · 05/09/2026 22:33

Aren’t they the same as these guys? They certainly look very similar. This protest was on the steps of Tower Hamlets Town Hall.

Does anyone know what's going on in Dover?
EasternStandard · 05/09/2026 22:35

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:29

Bardella is RN isn’t he? So it depends if Le Pen uses that agreement.

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:41

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:31

Nobody has tried to overthrow a democratic vote. If you still think it was a good idea you are being distinctly selective in the information you believe. It has been, and was always going to be, an utter disaster.

Really? Ten years on what is the biggest disaster it has caused you? Most people barely noticed.

pointythings · 05/09/2026 23:02

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:41

Really? Ten years on what is the biggest disaster it has caused you? Most people barely noticed.

People who had a small business and lost it due to Brexit would beg to differ. But of course some people only care about making sure wealthy bankers and offshore billionaires keep their cash flow running smoothly.

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 23:18

pointythings · 05/09/2026 23:02

People who had a small business and lost it due to Brexit would beg to differ. But of course some people only care about making sure wealthy bankers and offshore billionaires keep their cash flow running smoothly.

So you lost your small business? Are you sure it was Brexit related, everywhere I go seems to be rammed with people spending, Travelodge prices, which used to be seriously cheap, have been very silly for some time, Travelodge is where a lot of trades stay overnight, they would be a good bellwether of a slowdown in the economy.

YourWatermelonship · 05/09/2026 23:25

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:25

No, the standards are flexible, they will do accounting tricks ( and have done) to let certain countries in. I"m happy to have voted Leave and would do so again tomorrow if there was another vote, one of the interesting things about Brexit was that the public got to see establishment politicians try to overthrow a democratic vote, many of them were from Labour, very very distasteful moment in British politics.

Uh? Overthrowing? Especially by Labour who were not even in power? That literally never happened

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pointythings · 05/09/2026 23:29

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 23:18

So you lost your small business? Are you sure it was Brexit related, everywhere I go seems to be rammed with people spending, Travelodge prices, which used to be seriously cheap, have been very silly for some time, Travelodge is where a lot of trades stay overnight, they would be a good bellwether of a slowdown in the economy.

I didn't. But between16,000 and 20,000 people did. I know that I'm not supposed to care about things that happen to other people, that isn't the Farage Way, but I do actually care about other people because that's what being a decent human being is about.

The economic data isn't generally measured by the Travelodge Index, although I admire your creativity for inventing it.

Imafluffykitten · 05/09/2026 23:32

pointythings · 05/09/2026 23:29

I didn't. But between16,000 and 20,000 people did. I know that I'm not supposed to care about things that happen to other people, that isn't the Farage Way, but I do actually care about other people because that's what being a decent human being is about.

The economic data isn't generally measured by the Travelodge Index, although I admire your creativity for inventing it.

What about those who lost their businesses after Reeves and Starmer increased NI and NMW?

Any sympathy for them!

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 06/09/2026 00:06

Imafluffykitten · 05/09/2026 23:32

What about those who lost their businesses after Reeves and Starmer increased NI and NMW?

Any sympathy for them!

Can you not see that as a direct consequence of us not doing as well as we had been expected to do post-Brexit? Our economy is 8% smaller than it was on course for being had we stayed in EU. Where do you think that money has to be made back from?

Imafluffykitten · 06/09/2026 00:08

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 06/09/2026 00:06

Can you not see that as a direct consequence of us not doing as well as we had been expected to do post-Brexit? Our economy is 8% smaller than it was on course for being had we stayed in EU. Where do you think that money has to be made back from?

No.

Our economy is smaller because of the increased tax.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 06/09/2026 00:09

Imafluffykitten · 06/09/2026 00:08

No.

Our economy is smaller because of the increased tax.

Because Brexit has made the overall economy 4% to 8% smaller than it otherwise would have been, the government collects far less tax revenue naturally through VAT, income tax, and corporate tax. When an economy grows more slowly, the public sector "black hole" deepens. To fund public services like the NHS without increasing the national debt to dangerous levels, the government had to find new ways to raise cash https://theconversation.com/what-labours-first-budget-means-for-wages-taxes-business-the-nhs-and-plans-to-grow-the-economy-experts-explain-242509

What Labour’s first budget means for wages, taxes, business, the NHS and plans to grow the economy – experts explain

Going for growth… but can chancellor Rachel Reeves keep workers and business happy at the same time?

https://theconversation.com/what-labours-first-budget-means-for-wages-taxes-business-the-nhs-and-plans-to-grow-the-economy-experts-explain-242509

Diamond7272 · 06/09/2026 00:24

I thought Bonnie blue was filming her next x-rated video and all these slightly greasy, overweight and a bit smelly men had come down to Dover in balaclavas to perform :)

Or it was the darth vader appreciation society flexing their muscles about the dark side, otherwise known as P and O ferries?

Either way, they looked a bit sad really...

Imafluffykitten · 06/09/2026 00:26

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 06/09/2026 00:09

Because Brexit has made the overall economy 4% to 8% smaller than it otherwise would have been, the government collects far less tax revenue naturally through VAT, income tax, and corporate tax. When an economy grows more slowly, the public sector "black hole" deepens. To fund public services like the NHS without increasing the national debt to dangerous levels, the government had to find new ways to raise cash https://theconversation.com/what-labours-first-budget-means-for-wages-taxes-business-the-nhs-and-plans-to-grow-the-economy-experts-explain-242509

The black hole was caused by the increase in welfare payments.

The government raised NI and killed off small businesses and investment causing the economy to shrink.

Diamond7272 · 06/09/2026 00:43

Lampzade · 05/09/2026 21:02

They look so bloody ridiculous
Thugs

The ones on the TV news were a little 'chunky'.. Not in a schwartzenegger, van damme or dwayne Johnson kind of way, more a children's fictional 'milkshake' character, the kind of person who is a 40 something man with a round tummy, flabby face and squeaky voice. More middle aged midlife crisis struck oompa loompa in black than rambo....

There was a time when any reputable man going through the manopause would just buy an MX5 or a BMW soft top.. Now they have to get all Heydrich Himmler and stretch their trouser elastic singing deutschland uber alles...

sleepwouldbenice · 06/09/2026 01:20

Imafluffykitten · 06/09/2026 00:26

The black hole was caused by the increase in welfare payments.

The government raised NI and killed off small businesses and investment causing the economy to shrink.

You need to widen your reading. What you're being spoon fed isn't correct...

KeepPumping · 06/09/2026 02:29

pointythings · 05/09/2026 23:29

I didn't. But between16,000 and 20,000 people did. I know that I'm not supposed to care about things that happen to other people, that isn't the Farage Way, but I do actually care about other people because that's what being a decent human being is about.

The economic data isn't generally measured by the Travelodge Index, although I admire your creativity for inventing it.

Obviously you are not an investor if you don"t understand the difference between government accounting, house prices not included in inflation for example, and actual real world observation such as room bookings/costs?