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Does anyone know what's going on in Dover?

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YourWatermelonship · 05/09/2026 11:09

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cmwyzxlzxpzgt
Hundreds of masked protesters dressed in black disrupting Dover port.

They bear an unfortunate resemblance to the blackshirts

Port of Dover delays: Miles of traffic as protesters block roads

Traffic is being stopped from going in and out of the port because of a demonstration by a large group of masked protesters, with ferry services operating with some delay.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cmwyzxlzxpzgt

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SmallDFartyCarNRG · 05/09/2026 21:57

Yellowshirt · 05/09/2026 21:52

Well you pay for them then.
The country is chaotic and full and until the government control the borders people should be able to opt out of paying taxes.

People like you can then pay more, support them and house them until they are booted out of the country.

Only if you lot make up for the money we have lost in trade and keep losing post Brexit. Let's add in all the extras we now have to pay for that we didn't before, like farmers subsidies, keeping our own water clean without anyone else overseeing it, funding the poorest parts of the country...Deal?

DuncinToffee · 05/09/2026 21:58

No hotels, baracks or HMO's?

Where will you house them instead?

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:00

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 05/09/2026 20:55

I think that is what has got us in this mess - we have made it so hard to apply legally they come in boats.

You cannot simply stop everyone. Even USA has immigrants, every country does, even poor ones.

Nah, legal was always the problem, too many people, people on study visas bringing families etc. just nonsense, but of course the banks lent massively into BTL from the early 2000"s so no coincidence IMO, can"t believe more people don"t join the dots on this stuff, it all leads to money, debt, and the bankers. Boats are a sideshow, but the inability or unwillingness to stop the daily landings has become a political tipping point, governments have fallen on less. Australia stopped the boat crossings, we could as well.

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:01

DuncinToffee · 05/09/2026 21:58

No hotels, baracks or HMO's?

Where will you house them instead?

Reform say they will be returned to French shores by the navy, they won"t be housed in the UK.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 05/09/2026 22:02

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:01

Reform say they will be returned to French shores by the navy, they won"t be housed in the UK.

Oh so the banker you do like wants us to spend a lot of money using our defence boats and naval officers to take them all back. That sounds cheap...

DuncinToffee · 05/09/2026 22:04

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:01

Reform say they will be returned to French shores by the navy, they won"t be housed in the UK.

The Navy?

Come on, even you know that plan is nonsense.

And it's unlikely France will take asylum seekers back for free.

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:04

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 05/09/2026 21:57

Only if you lot make up for the money we have lost in trade and keep losing post Brexit. Let's add in all the extras we now have to pay for that we didn't before, like farmers subsidies, keeping our own water clean without anyone else overseeing it, funding the poorest parts of the country...Deal?

No Deal. You think people flooding into the country in small boats adds anything to the economy? The only reason for any trade friction with the EU is that the EU want to make it as difficult as they can because we voted to leave, ultimately they are going to break up due to allowing mass immigration into the EU for too long, more and more countries are just going to control their own borders.

EasternStandard · 05/09/2026 22:06

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 05/09/2026 22:02

Oh so the banker you do like wants us to spend a lot of money using our defence boats and naval officers to take them all back. That sounds cheap...

If people are returned they stop as traffickers can’t sell the spaces, look at numbers from Albania after the policy change.

Imafluffykitten · 05/09/2026 22:06

DuncinToffee · 05/09/2026 21:39

and me

That’s really lovely to know!

I’m so happy to heat it!

Someone from my child’s school is looking for accommodation for a few families, also some financial support.

Will you be able to help?

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:08

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:04

No Deal. You think people flooding into the country in small boats adds anything to the economy? The only reason for any trade friction with the EU is that the EU want to make it as difficult as they can because we voted to leave, ultimately they are going to break up due to allowing mass immigration into the EU for too long, more and more countries are just going to control their own borders.

This is just nonsense.
There isn’t a ‘flood’. They can’t contribute t9 teh economy because we won’t let them work.
The EU isn’t being difficult, it’s just applying the rules we were party to making when we were in - leavers were told that’s what would happen if we left but you insisted we could have all the benefits of membership without being members.
Leavers have been saying the EU will break up since before Brexit. No sign yet. More countries want to join.

DuncinToffee · 05/09/2026 22:11

Imafluffykitten · 05/09/2026 22:06

That’s really lovely to know!

I’m so happy to heat it!

Someone from my child’s school is looking for accommodation for a few families, also some financial support.

Will you be able to help?

Oh, I haven't had that one for a while.

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:11

DuncinToffee · 05/09/2026 22:04

The Navy?

Come on, even you know that plan is nonsense.

And it's unlikely France will take asylum seekers back for free.

According to Reform international maritime law states that people in distress at sea can be disembarked on the nearest safe land, so they think that is French beaches, Marine Le Pen is touted to be the next leader of France so it will probably soon be a very different environment for people determined to force their way through national borders.

https://www.europeaninterest.eu/le-pens-national-rally-if-it-wins-next-presidential-election-plans-referendum-to-revise-french-constitution/

Le Pen's National Rally, if it wins next presidential election, plans referendum to revise French Constitution

Far-right National Rally (RN) President Jordan Bardella announced this week that if Marine Le Pen is elected president, she would immediately call for a referendum to revise the Constitution, AFP reported today. The proposed changes aim to implement na...

https://www.europeaninterest.eu/le-pens-national-rally-if-it-wins-next-presidential-election-plans-referendum-to-revise-french-constitution/

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:12

Imafluffykitten · 05/09/2026 22:06

That’s really lovely to know!

I’m so happy to heat it!

Someone from my child’s school is looking for accommodation for a few families, also some financial support.

Will you be able to help?

oHousing asylum seekers is a function if government, not a responsibility of individuals. Asylum seekers actually can’t be housed by individuals - refugees can and lots of people actually do through the Ukraine schemes and various charities. But someone not having space or ability to house a refugee themselves doesn’t mean they should be opposed to asylum.

feellikeanalien · 05/09/2026 22:12

RedTagAlan · 05/09/2026 11:59

I think it's just the sort of thing they would come up with. "Look at the silent majority" sort of thing.

Or maybe Restore ? Trying to remind people they exist ?

Funnily enough I had a Reatore leaflet through the door the other day. We have no local elections due.

EasternStandard · 05/09/2026 22:13

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:11

According to Reform international maritime law states that people in distress at sea can be disembarked on the nearest safe land, so they think that is French beaches, Marine Le Pen is touted to be the next leader of France so it will probably soon be a very different environment for people determined to force their way through national borders.

https://www.europeaninterest.eu/le-pens-national-rally-if-it-wins-next-presidential-election-plans-referendum-to-revise-french-constitution/

If her party wins there will be some changes on this I agree.

DuncinToffee · 05/09/2026 22:15

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:11

According to Reform international maritime law states that people in distress at sea can be disembarked on the nearest safe land, so they think that is French beaches, Marine Le Pen is touted to be the next leader of France so it will probably soon be a very different environment for people determined to force their way through national borders.

https://www.europeaninterest.eu/le-pens-national-rally-if-it-wins-next-presidential-election-plans-referendum-to-revise-french-constitution/

The UK navy can invade foreign waters?

Do you think LePen will welcome refugees back on French shores as a goodwill gesture?

Imafluffykitten · 05/09/2026 22:15

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:08

This is just nonsense.
There isn’t a ‘flood’. They can’t contribute t9 teh economy because we won’t let them work.
The EU isn’t being difficult, it’s just applying the rules we were party to making when we were in - leavers were told that’s what would happen if we left but you insisted we could have all the benefits of membership without being members.
Leavers have been saying the EU will break up since before Brexit. No sign yet. More countries want to join.

It’s soooo unfair!

They could be contributing so much. There are so man highly educated men and women between them.

We have to house them, and we sre already trying to find suitable accommodation for them.

The men don’t mind sleeping in someone’s living room in a sofa or an even on a mattress on the floor. They are happy to do babysitting while they wait for their work clearance.

Oh, and we need some drivers so that they attend their Hospital appointments.

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:16

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:08

This is just nonsense.
There isn’t a ‘flood’. They can’t contribute t9 teh economy because we won’t let them work.
The EU isn’t being difficult, it’s just applying the rules we were party to making when we were in - leavers were told that’s what would happen if we left but you insisted we could have all the benefits of membership without being members.
Leavers have been saying the EU will break up since before Brexit. No sign yet. More countries want to join.

Yes, economic basket case countries, don"t you see the problem with having a few rich hosts and telling everyone they can join up and come over? Not having frictionless trade with the 5th/6th biggest economy in the world practically on your doorstep is a massive own goal for the EU, it shows they are all about political control rather than boosting economies for their citizens.

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:16

Imafluffykitten · 05/09/2026 22:15

It’s soooo unfair!

They could be contributing so much. There are so man highly educated men and women between them.

We have to house them, and we sre already trying to find suitable accommodation for them.

The men don’t mind sleeping in someone’s living room in a sofa or an even on a mattress on the floor. They are happy to do babysitting while they wait for their work clearance.

Oh, and we need some drivers so that they attend their Hospital appointments.

Sorry? This makes no sense whatsoever

Imafluffykitten · 05/09/2026 22:17

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:16

Sorry? This makes no sense whatsoever

Why shouldn’t they be able to earn some money while waiting?

EasternStandard · 05/09/2026 22:18

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:12

oHousing asylum seekers is a function if government, not a responsibility of individuals. Asylum seekers actually can’t be housed by individuals - refugees can and lots of people actually do through the Ukraine schemes and various charities. But someone not having space or ability to house a refugee themselves doesn’t mean they should be opposed to asylum.

That’s not correct. Refugees at Home provide for both.

Refugees at Home is a UK charity which connects those with a spare room in their home to refugees and people seeking asylum who are in need of somewhere to stay.

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:18

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:16

Yes, economic basket case countries, don"t you see the problem with having a few rich hosts and telling everyone they can join up and come over? Not having frictionless trade with the 5th/6th biggest economy in the world practically on your doorstep is a massive own goal for the EU, it shows they are all about political control rather than boosting economies for their citizens.

It’s not the EU’s fault we don’t have frictionless trade with them. Farage had a lot to do with it.
The EU doesn’t tell everyone they can join - there are strict standards to meet.
Maybe stop blaming everything on everyone else and take some responsibility for voting Leave.

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:19

Imafluffykitten · 05/09/2026 22:17

Why shouldn’t they be able to earn some money while waiting?

Well exactly. We don’t let them. Other countries do.

KeepPumping · 05/09/2026 22:20

DuncinToffee · 05/09/2026 22:15

The UK navy can invade foreign waters?

Do you think LePen will welcome refugees back on French shores as a goodwill gesture?

She will be locking down the borders, there won"t be many people needing saved at sea IMO.

Imafluffykitten · 05/09/2026 22:22

cardibach · 05/09/2026 22:19

Well exactly. We don’t let them. Other countries do.

I know!

They should be able to, and they should bring their families who can work as well, if they want to!

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