Lindsay Clancy confession

[Midnightmoonface]

How do you feel about the confession from Lindsay Clancy only being made after the professionals told her what she did upon coming around from her coma?

I definitely thought she made a confession, but it seems like there’s a huge doubt on that detail actually. It seems like when she woke she didn’t remember anything, and she was “informed” of what she had done and her confession followed this.

In modern western legal systems, a simple confession isn't enough to prove someone did something. the confession has to match with other known facts. Defendents can also (and often do) withdraw confessions saying they were coerced or confused. Her lawyers would have pursued that withdrawal if she agreed and if they could convince a jury. Her lawyers haven't tried that defence. I don't think a confession in January 2023 matters now.

the only legal point now is if she was in such bad grips of psychosis in the 2023 moment that she truly didn't know what she was doing.

if she's found non guilty by insanity then I'd want her sectioned forever, never want her released on the streets until she's old, frail and slow since she could go violently dangerously to others again at no notice. Someone who can do such an awful act without any recognition they were at risk of doing it...

This is a timeline ... LC was acting fairly normal all day & then offed her own children. That's pretty terrifying.

A psychiatrist (Kirk Heilbrun) has testified that it is his opinion that she wanted to commit s-cide and did not want to leave her children behind.

Her journal entries suggest that she was unhappy with her life and struggling to cope. In one of her journal entries she wrote, “It’s like I’m desperate to get a mental break from taking care of everyone. My mind is trying to make something physically wrong with me. My mind never shuts off. It’s constantly thinking of the next thing someone needs. I can’t shut it off. I desperately want to go back to work, but now I don’t know how I’m going to function, and it worries me”.

In another one of her journal entries she wrote, “I’m completely overwhelmed trying to take care of the three kids”.

I have watched it and been less and less convinced of psychosis during the trial. I think unfortunately the commonwealth have made some awful mistakes (the bows, the mortal sin comment) and may have lost the jury.

I’d hate to be on that jury and I wouldn’t want to comment on what the verdict should be given I haven’t heard it all but misinformation seems to abound on social media (the post referencing that she apparently asked if she needed a lawyer on regaining consciousness as evidence of guilt even though that’s not the evidence and there’s a certain amount of context that might have caused her to say that is an example).

I think her ex husband is a victim and I feel very sorry for him, and his family and her family. Not sure that this case should have been prosecuted at all. The only slightly positive thing I can see coming out of it is that it seems to be accepted by most people that she was suffering from a serious mental illness (even though the extent and the impact is in dispute) and the care she had wasn’t good so you’d hope that this awful awful situation might mean changes are made.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ohiKJa4qmMI?si=CrAQyvNn90wNEtNX

https://youtube.com/shorts/kip3aauXqps?si=qFxhjddyxC5imS9h

https://youtube.com/shorts/BgdofEQR8dY?si=009RNOt4pApc1AWb

https://youtube.com/shorts/jPsVs5Th7NQ?si=Sb9Jra2Bi_ni2Vud

Interesting

Doesnt sound very psychotic.

Sounds lucid and sane.

Theres no doubt she wasnt very well, suffering with extreme anxiety and insomnia and very troubled, thats not the same as psychosis and not having a choice about what you do.

The legal definition of insanity is that you're completely in psychosis.

When I first started reading that some people thought she was innocent I thought it was idiots who spend too much time reading conspiracy theories. Maybe I’m getting sucked in but some of it is making me think now. The police turn up to a house with dead kids and a severely injured woman and seem to take the husbands word for it that she did it.

her lawyer seems to have just cast doubt on her confession and said there has been no police investigation into who did it at all.

and yes I can understand that if mentally unwell she could have believed she did it if told she had enough by someone she trusted. I wonder what she thinks now?

then there’s little snippets which I have no idea if true or not. That her body temp was too low for someone who’d only been outside ten mins, that the husband sent an email using the home wifi when he states he was getting a takeaway. Not sure what is proven or what is conspiracy theories.

Seems weird the crushed up pill claim came from Patrick too. This whole time the story has been she crushed up all this medication, now it turns out Patrick seen some residue on a glass so he said she crushed up medication into a drink, at one point I think they said “fistfuls of pills” but literally none of that was even looked at in an attempt to prove or disprove.

God just reading about this. How awful!

"her lawyer seems to have just cast doubt on her confession and said there has been no police investigation into who did it at all."

I think it's pretty appalling that the ex husband is being accused of murdering his own kids. Quite apart from his being out of the house on multiple errands she sent him on and the recording of the 999 call, phone records etc - if there was any evidence that he did it the defence would have brought it up, as they have access to all the evidence and smoke time to analyse it.

But no, a bunch of internet commentators know better and it must be the bereaved dad.

I feel like the defence did bring it up, in a round about way. That is why they have looked at his timeline for being out of the house during the trial.

She wasn’t heard on the 911 call, she could not speak as she had cut her throat. With her left hand.

There was police going in and out of the room and she was handcuffed.

Couldn’t speak due to the injuries but told her dh that she’d done it 🤷‍♀️. So much stuff which doesn’t make sense.

I wonder why her clothes were soaking wet.

It’s not really odd that some people think the husband did it - statistically it’s far more likely. It does seem a bit odd police just appear to have accepted his word for what she said at a time she couldn’t talk. And interesting that her MIL is supporting and giving evidence for her.

"It’s not really odd that some people think the husband did it - statistically it’s far more likely"

Really how many statistics are there on people who have murdered their kids then successfully pinned it on their depressed partner who hid things from their doctors? Where both defence and prosecution accept the depressed partner did it? That's a lot of conditional probabilities.

Or are these statistics based solely on the fact that he has a penis and she doesn't? People suspect him solely for being a man then concoct outlandish theories for how he must have done it.

Pure misandry

"interesting that her MIL is supporting and giving evidence for her"

Case dismissed then 🤣

Yes, she means statically it’s more common that men kill their own families than women. I don’t see how that is misandry.

I didn’t think he had done it at all before the trial started and I thought people who did think that were mad but I do think he did it now because that’s what the evidence says.

I don’t think anyone thinks ‘case closed’ because his mother supports Lynsey Clancy but there wasn’t a ‘case opened’.

He said she had done it and everyone else, including her, went with that. There wasn’t an investigation.

They had cctv of him at the pharmacy and receipts were checked for times/items bought at the pharmacy.
Surveillance was checked to see him arriving at the restaurant he was picking up dinner from as well as phone records for the call he made to her.
I’m no detective but that sounds like an investigation.

"Yes, she means statically it’s more common that men kill their own families than women. I don’t see how that is misandry."

Because the Starting point is that he is most likely to do it because he has a penis,

Tto justify this the ignoring all the evidence she did it not him, insist both the prediction and defence are incompetent/ in a cover up then concocting outlandish justifications for their prejudice?

An example of this is the mil supports her. ... This is evidence of his guilt how?

What do you think all the evidence is that it was her though?
In this cases there’s a real lack of evidence, the current information and timeline is all based on Patrick’s comments so not exactly evidence.
And the confession was told to her before she repeated it, and repeated it badly because various parts of what she claimed in her statement didn’t happen when looking at the crime scene “I slashed the window screen before jumping out” for example but this didn’t actually take place.
I’m not saying he did it but I’m curious when people talk about “all the evidence” pointing to her, I’ve not seen this actually elaborated.

I think this would be a totally different story if she were a poor “hillbilly” from Ohio or heaven forbid, black. In other words, women only feel sorry for her because she’s terribly middle class and white.

Well they are not going to test for fingerprints on the exercise bands etc because she doesn't dispute she did it not does the prosecution and defence.

They can match time of death and know he demonstrably wasn't present when they died.

Women do commit heinous offences; just more rarely then men do. This is sadly one such case but so many people oh statistics then react emotionally saying a women would never do this....

If a father killed his kids and then attempted suicide, but survived, people would want him dragged off to the electric chair.

He was only not there based on his own testimony, and his own testimony of when he left the house and when he was seen entering CVS includes 18 mins of missing time.